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Started by j1980mac, May 03, 2017, 11:08:44 PM

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j1980mac

Hey all, I'm Josh, (noob). Just got my MKS Ecoboost 2 weeks ago. Looking for the best "sleeper power". Would love to get some real world insight.

Thanks! 
2013 MKS Ecoboost

AJP turbo

Id start with a tune then see if you want more....a tune has way more value than downpipes
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Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

j1980mac

Definitely doing both. So do you have any personal thoughts or experience with downpipes?

Thanks!
2013 MKS Ecoboost

AJP turbo

Quote from: j1980mac on May 04, 2017, 11:57:57 AM
Definitely doing both. So do you have any personal thoughts or experience with downpipes?

Thanks!

Sure,

I've personally used stainless works catless pipes...They were fine after they changed their pattern for the PP cars and now have correct 02 sensor placement

They increase the overall efficiency of the engine by evacuating exhaust gasses..I typically see a small reduction in wastegate duty cycle when tuning cars that have them...Meaning it's easier for the turbos to maintain high boost levels but more importantly they help reduce the thermal load on the turbos which can extend the life.
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

derfdog15

I second what AJP said! My personal recommendation would be start with a tune, and if you still want more, then downpipes as the next step. I had an AJP tune for a while (on its own), and loved it, then added downpipes, and some other mods, and made significant power with my 2015 SHO PP. l actually bought AJPs downpipes after he got his truck.

The tune is definitely the greatest difference you will notice. It is also cheaper than the downpipes, and needed to properly utilize downpipes anyway!
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car

j1980mac

Quote from: derfdog15 on May 04, 2017, 12:32:48 PM
I second what AJP said! My personal recommendation would be start with a tune, and if you still want more, then downpipes as the next step. I had an AJP tune for a while (on its own), and loved it, then added downpipes, and some other mods, and made significant power with my 2015 SHO PP. l actually bought AJPs downpipes after he got his truck.

The tune is definitely the greatest difference you will notice. It is also cheaper than the downpipes, and needed to properly utilize downpipes anyway!

Yeah man, I definitely realize the price factors. I also know a tune has to be done with exhaust. I've been reading up long before I got the car. :)
2013 MKS Ecoboost

j1980mac

Quote from: AJP turbo on May 04, 2017, 12:18:14 PM
Quote from: j1980mac on May 04, 2017, 11:57:57 AM
Definitely doing both. So do you have any personal thoughts or experience with downpipes?

Thanks!

Sure,

I've personally used stainless works catless pipes...They were fine after they changed their pattern for the PP cars and now have correct 02 sensor placement

They increase the overall efficiency of the engine by evacuating exhaust gasses..I typically see a small reduction in wastegate duty cycle when tuning cars that have them...Meaning it's easier for the turbos to maintain high boost levels but more importantly they help reduce the thermal load on the turbos which can extend the life.

Awesome insight. I had no idea they extend turbo life. Even more reason to get them. Thanks!
2013 MKS Ecoboost

EcoPowerParts

Do you need to pass readiness checks for emissions if so then PPE is the only pipe on the list that will do it, if that's not a concern then any works.
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ZSHO

#8
I would add this to the mix,if your State requires Emissions Testing I/M Readiness then PPE Catted DP from www.ecopwerparts.com are the only ones proven to pass while the others mentioned above are simply for off-road use only.  Z
http://www.ecopowerparts.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=150


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

FearlessAZ

Quote from: EcoPowerParts on May 05, 2017, 10:21:22 AM
Do you need to pass readiness checks for emissions if so then PPE is the only pipe on the list that will do it, if that's not a concern then any works.


That was one of the huge deciding factors with me. And I have seen pictures of PPE's work and their stuff is practically considered art.
2010 Non PP Sho. All the factory goodies. (RIP)


2015 MKS Ecoboost. All the factory goodies. (SOLD)

EcoPowerParts

Just to be clear, the PPE pipes pass your cars readiness but are still considered off road pipes per EPA, me and PPE.
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please use my website for any price quotes and to submit any orders.
Please email me via info@ecopowerparts.com if you have any questions on new or existing orders, PM's via the forum are hard to track your purchase as I can't relate user name to actual name.
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lamrith

#11
Quote from: FearlessAZ on May 05, 2017, 10:42:55 AM
Quote from: EcoPowerParts on May 05, 2017, 10:21:22 AM
Do you need to pass readiness checks for emissions if so then PPE is the only pipe on the list that will do it, if that's not a concern then any works.


That was one of the huge deciding factors with me. And I have seen pictures of PPE's work and their stuff is practically considered art.
Yes they really are works of art.

'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

EcoPowerParts

Here's the deal they're not the cheapest but I made 600WHP with the catted pipes on my car and they pass readiness checks for your ECU and the construction is amazing. I have started ordering in sets of 3 to have available so that customers won't have to wait 2 months for the pipes. I expect my stock order to be ready in another 3-4 weeks for all future customers.
Mike B | info@ecopowerparts.com
www.ecopowerparts.com -
please use my website for any price quotes and to submit any orders.
Please email me via info@ecopowerparts.com if you have any questions on new or existing orders, PM's via the forum are hard to track your purchase as I can't relate user name to actual name.
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jonnoriega

It's not an SHO but I've got a '16 Explorer Platinum EcoBoost (3.5L Twin Turbo) and I installed a Livernois Sport Level 2 Performance Package with a 3 Bar Map and I've been having fun driving it for the past 2 weeks.  I kept the original muffler on and it sounds nice at start up but runs quiet except for the few instances when you punch it.  I'd invest in a tune first but if you can splurge, get the downpipes and a 3 Bar Map Sensor. 
2016 Explorer Platinum