Did anyone here reach out to Autotech about our HPFP as far as getting it upgraded or should I say them building upgraded guts? I emailed them today and they said they have one on order, but it hasn't come in yet. They make upgraded guts for Audi/VW and Mazdaspeed HPFP. If they do make something, they are very well respected in their respective communities for pumps.
HPFP upgrade
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redsand said:
I agree it would be nice however no one has really tapped out the fuel yet to know when we'll need it. I would think most people will never need it and that's why there is such limited support. I'm at 425/520 with pretty much every available performance upgrade and still have plenty of fuel
Just FYI this is a response I got from Livernois concerning fueling on the SHO/Flex fueling. I emailed them after we discussed it via PM. I thought it was weird that you were indicating that there was fuel but every tuner I know that is tuning the trucks and cars is saying with mild mods we're out of fuel.
Andy said:
4DRHTRD said:
I agree with the E85 fuel might be an issue and I've stated that previously. I know Andy quite well and I'm not sure why he's the one that responded to that email. I only go by what Dan says..it's his programming..and I'm not sure why he wouldn't be honest with me when it comes to that..it's no benefit to him. I suggested adding more methanol and he said we don't need it. It took some time to figure out the fuel tables..I know that for sure
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I do remember when 1st-Sho and Darrell's cars had the turbos upgraded and Dan struggled with get there cars to make more power.
As everything he tried proved unsuccessful.
I do remember him saying the car had fail safes, that limited the amount of power it could make, and him saying no one would ever figure be able to figure it out.
But I got the impression he got some inside help from someone at ford to get around these fail safes.
As everything he tried proved unsuccessful.
I do remember him saying the car had fail safes, that limited the amount of power it could make, and him saying no one would ever figure be able to figure it out.
But I got the impression he got some inside help from someone at ford to get around these fail safes.
HPFP upgrades at least the ones I've seen for the MS6 only help to keep the pressure high under WOT when the stock internals start dropping due to an inability to keep up with demand. I'm not sure that just upgrading the internals to keep the pressure up is going to do anything if high pressure alone is not the issue. I'm definitely just thinking out loud and do not claim to know exactly how it all works. But to me it seems that if it's purely a volume issue, water/methanol, straight methanol, E85, auxiliary or the combination might be the only thing we can do to overcome the fueling hurdle. I think I'm going to email Torrie to see where he stands on the fueling questions we have, since we got Livernois' take on the issue.
From Autotech:
I'm not sure who promised them a pump but maybe we can get some monetary donations together to buy a pump and send it off to them? I'm in if we can get people to do it! I found the pump at Fred Beans for $243.08. So it's actually not too expensive to get one, so is anyone cool with raising the money to do this thing?
I'm not sure who promised them a pump but maybe we can get some monetary donations together to buy a pump and send it off to them? I'm in if we can get people to do it! I found the pump at Fred Beans for $243.08. So it's actually not too expensive to get one, so is anyone cool with raising the money to do this thing?
I'd be happy to chip in a few bucks. But I am a little confused. Did the fuel pumps/assemblies change in the 2013 model year?
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Wrong pumpsSHOdded said:I'd be happy to chip in a few bucks. But I am a little confused. Did the fuel pumps/assemblies change in the 2013 model year?
Link to 2013 parts:
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Link to 2010-12 parts:
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Parts List
We're talking about the one on the motor - the high pressure one, that's the in tank fuel pump.