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Is it better to wait until after the first oil change/ break-in period to have the oil tested, say second oil change ?
 
I don't believe there is any set time to start the analysis.  I'd think the second oil change would be a good point to start, for ongoing purposes.
 
Has anyone changed oil change interval or type of oil they use based on analysis so far? How about filters?

What is current best practice for engine oil and ptu?
 
The Motorcraft FL-500S oil filter is clearly the best choice in my opinion,and Amsoil 75w-140 for the PTU UNIT and 80w-90 for the RDU gear oil is no doubt the best in the market,had mine changed at 33k which the ocd in me is to blame,probably could of waited a little longer,Amsoil,Redline,Penzoil ultra motor oil changed at a 5k interval seems more than adequate.  Z
 
Ya lol i was a bit confussed on that too.. Other than the fact i had enough TBN to run the oil longer.  The car was tunned the entire run of oil and had several drag strip passes. Plus my driving style is aggressive.. Either way im not to worried about 54PPM based on 1 snapshot.
 
Oil Report on Full Synthetic Motorcraft 5w/30 run for 6,000 miles.

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Please chime in and let me know what you think.  My only comment is it appears that 5,000 miles is probably a better interval due to the thin viscosity.  My guess on the fuel dilution is that it's due to me idling at my son's bus stop?  I cold start the car and drive it one mile each day and then it idles for about 10 minutes before I pick him up and run errands.

 
Im not sure its fuel dilution...ive seen reports that shows motorcraft oil shearing badly...im questioning the issue of fuel dilution in these and other DI motors...they run leaner at wot and command enrichment later and the fuel spends less time in the cylinder on top of that because its di and the fuel is sprayed late on the compression stroke rather that early in the intake stroke...so a full stroke later
 
I'm no expert, but they measured fuel at nearly 2%.  Wouldn't that be fuel dilution?  I don't buy the lean burning part of DI given that my DI and my Dad's both soot the crap out of the tailpipes.  I know that's not a scientific measurement, but... My tailpipes look dirtier than the 4" pipe that was on my diesel SuperDuty that rolled coal.

I also live in the country with 55mph speed limits and very few stop lights and only average 20mpg.  Same I got with the SuperDuty or my old school v8 CrownVic.  The MKS has decent power, but overall if this is an example of DI...they can keep it!
 
Pipes may be dirty and i cant tell you why but di motors have less fuel delivered all things being equal...that was one of the benefits and reasons they use less fuel at wot...there is no fuel laden air mixture during the compression stroke so there should be less chance for preignition because there is no fuel present

The crown vic is grossly outperformed in every measurable aspect so if economy is similar that is great accomplishment and diesels are a different animal that uses fuel with much greater energy so apples to well, watermelon

I think the crown vic might run better with an escape with the 2.0....power is about the same lol
 
sholxgt said:
I'm no expert, but they measured fuel at nearly 2%.  Wouldn't that be fuel dilution?  I don't buy the lean burning part of DI given that my DI and my Dad's both soot the crap out of the tailpipes.  I know that's not a scientific measurement, but... My tailpipes look dirtier than the 4" pipe that was on my diesel SuperDuty that rolled coal.

I also live in the country with 55mph speed limits and very few stop lights and only average 20mpg.  Same I got with the SuperDuty or my old school v8 CrownVic.  The MKS has decent power, but overall if this is an example of DI...they can keep it!
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Don't the results show a trace of fuel? Where's the 2% coming from? Maybe I'm not reading that right.
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BlueSHO said:
sholxgt said:
I'm no expert, but they measured fuel at nearly 2%.  Wouldn't that be fuel dilution?  I don't buy the lean burning part of DI given that my DI and my Dad's both soot the crap out of the tailpipes.  I know that's not a scientific measurement, but... My tailpipes look dirtier than the 4" pipe that was on my diesel SuperDuty that rolled coal.

I also live in the country with 55mph speed limits and very few stop lights and only average 20mpg.  Same I got with the SuperDuty or my old school v8 CrownVic.  The MKS has decent power, but overall if this is an example of DI...they can keep it!
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Don't the results show a trace of fuel? Where's the 2% coming from? Maybe I'm not reading that right.
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Thanks Steal!  I was reading it wrong.  Not you.  Trace definitely doesn't mean full dilution.

AJP is probably right about the oil shearing.  That would make sense given the results.  Doesn't look to be enough of a problem given the miles accumulated though.

Curious, has anyone done a test on Amsoil Signature in our platform with a full term interval?

I have Mobil 1 Extended Performance in now and will test it to compare.
 
sholxgt said:
BlueSHO said:
sholxgt said:
I'm no expert, but they measured fuel at nearly 2%.  Wouldn't that be fuel dilution?  I don't buy the lean burning part of DI given that my DI and my Dad's both soot the crap out of the tailpipes.  I know that's not a scientific measurement, but... My tailpipes look dirtier than the 4" pipe that was on my diesel SuperDuty that rolled coal.

I also live in the country with 55mph speed limits and very few stop lights and only average 20mpg.  Same I got with the SuperDuty or my old school v8 CrownVic.  The MKS has decent power, but overall if this is an example of DI...they can keep it!
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Don't the results show a trace of fuel? Where's the 2% coming from? Maybe I'm not reading that right.
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Thanks Steal!  I was reading it wrong.  Not you.  Trace definitely doesn't mean full dilution.

AJP is probably right about the oil shearing.  That would make sense given the results.  Doesn't look to be enough of a problem given the miles accumulated though.

Curious, has anyone done a test on Amsoil Signature in our platform with a full term interval?

I have Mobil 1 Extended Performance in now and will test it to compare.
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Steal?  Blue here as in Blue Jeans

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AJP turbo said:
Pipes may be dirty and i cant tell you why but di motors have less fuel delivered all things being equal...that was one of the benefits and reasons they use less fuel at wot...there is no fuel laden air mixture during the compression stroke so there should be less chance for preignition because there is no fuel present

The crown vic is grossly outperformed in every measurable aspect so if economy is similar that is great accomplishment and diesels are a different animal that uses fuel with much greater energy so apples to well, watermelon

I think the crown vic might run better with an escape with the 2.0....power is about the same lol
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LOL. They are not rockets!  My point was that the 4.6 2-valve motors are JUNK!  Yet, it pulled around that car and got similar fuel mileage.

I also had a 4.6 3valve Explorer 4x4.  Much better motor and it also got similar fuel economy in a vehicle with worse aerodynamics. 

I like Ford's direction with combining DI and standard EFI.  I think the combo could prove to solve several issues including ability for high power and better overall driving experience.
 
Yeah but both those V8 motors had like 60-100 less hp and less tq and less tq down low!....they are better compared to the 2.0 I4 ecoboost lol
 
I think you could put 15,000 miles on the Amsoil before you break it down to the level in this report.  Waiting to see the results on the high mileage Edge now :)
 
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