I could relate if this post was regarding warranty issues with a tune,but having a lengthy debate for such a simple matter is appauling,dont come back here and post [HELP] went to the dealer and for no reason they changed my strategy code and cant load my tune,all you need is a tech like the one that poured washer fluid in the labeled cap meth only reservoir to ruin your day,you learn something new in life everyday and usually its from your mistakes.
2013/14 Taurus, MKS, Flex, MKT recall for right-hand halfshaft disengagement
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ZSHO said:
Maybe a tuner can correct me if I am wrong but if a dealer reprograms your PCM all you need to do is dump your tune back in. That rewrites the PCM. The vehicle goes through the same programming process regardless if the dealer does it or you do it with your programmer.
Strategy codes identify which vehicle,motor, etc. and software level your vehicle is at. If a dealer puts newer software in reloading your tune will just revert it back to the older software and be tuned.
I have had issues with tuners because they don't stay on top of revision releases. I like to keep my module programming up to date especially the PCM because Ford makes changes for a reason. Tuners tend not to stay up with the latest PCM releases however.
Jason
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SHOmanMike84
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ZSHO said:
Did someone not get their morning coffee?? Geez, relax some.
SHOmanMike84
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ZSHO said:
You're welcome!
SHOmanMike84
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Actually I could care less if you had coffee or not! I was attempting to be somewhat humorous, clearly you took offense to it and you continue to badger on.
Ok guys, veering way off topic here 
First off, Z and Rich are very right to point out the cautions you SHOULD take when you take your "altered" vehicle to the dealer, especially if you don't know the service advisor/tech working on it.
Second of all, if you have installed componentry (e.g. 3-bar MAP) that can cause all kinds of computer warning bells to go off in the event that the PCM IS updated w/out your being told (some dealerships do that to be helpful), you could run into warranty issues then or later down the road. You just don't know. Do YOU want to be the exception to the rule after investing all that time/money in the car?
Finally, I am sure Ford doesn't send out bulletins to owners letting them know a PCM update is available. Unlike an OS or video card update in a computer, you don't normally find out until you are in the shop, or maybe have a running subscription to alldata or similar service.
What I don't know is if matters are different between 10-12 and 13+ in encoding/programming that in any material way affects tunes/tuning devices. But being able to pull the strategy code with the tuning device should get you back on the right path.
First off, Z and Rich are very right to point out the cautions you SHOULD take when you take your "altered" vehicle to the dealer, especially if you don't know the service advisor/tech working on it.
Second of all, if you have installed componentry (e.g. 3-bar MAP) that can cause all kinds of computer warning bells to go off in the event that the PCM IS updated w/out your being told (some dealerships do that to be helpful), you could run into warranty issues then or later down the road. You just don't know. Do YOU want to be the exception to the rule after investing all that time/money in the car?
Finally, I am sure Ford doesn't send out bulletins to owners letting them know a PCM update is available. Unlike an OS or video card update in a computer, you don't normally find out until you are in the shop, or maybe have a running subscription to alldata or similar service.
What I don't know is if matters are different between 10-12 and 13+ in encoding/programming that in any material way affects tunes/tuning devices. But being able to pull the strategy code with the tuning device should get you back on the right path.
Airbornemaikai
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When I know they're going under the hood or performing a repair I always revert it back to stock because like SHOdded and others have pointed out, you never know when a tech is going to do you a favor and run extra tests and make sure your pcm is up to date. I have had this happen before I was even tuned when I had to have my dash lcd,s replaced and a tsb performed. Just today having my airbag checked I knew they would have to run a diagnostic so I reverted to stock and removed my 3 bar. It literally took me 6mins to remove the 3 bar, put the 2 bar back in and revert to stock. Once I left dealer I put the 3 bar back in and tuned it again before getting on the interstate. Imo just not worth the risk.
Does anyone have any more detail on exactly what they look for or see? I have a 14' and I put it up on my lift and looked at both axles and didn't see any evidence of the shafts coming out. This is for the passenger side correct?
I yanked and pulled and pushed on the axles in and out and nothing moved or poped in or out so I think I'm good, I'd just like to see what they are looking at exactly
I yanked and pulled and pushed on the axles in and out and nothing moved or poped in or out so I think I'm good, I'd just like to see what they are looking at exactly
http://www.automd.com/recall/campaign_c105946/ Its a recall so no matter if you have warranty or not Ford is obligated to inspect or replace the halfshaft for free,not worth taking a chance inspecting it yourself,if any thing happens down the road the dealer will be responsible cause it will be in the record book that it was inspected or not ,good luck.
Yeah I've read that but I'd like to see the actual Ford issued TSB. They usually have a diagram and go into more detail on HOW TO inspect or replace parts and how long it takes. I can't seem to find it. They have to do that because most mechanics and dealer techs are just parts changers so I'll take my chances with looking at it myself on my lift. I'd just like to see the formal instruction for the recall.