anthonylee337
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If you haven't checked out the 2015 Grand National yet please do-I am in love with the body style and it will come with AWD and a 400 horse 3.6L V6 engine!
2015 Grand National
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wasinger3000
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I hate gm.... but if this was awd it would be cool.
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I don't know. It IS a departure from Buick styling in a good way, but it reminds me of a Nissan front end with a Beemer back end. I saw a pic of a hood w a scoop, too small, looks ricer to me.
BUT, I am all for a performance Buick worthy of the GN/GNX badge. Would be nice to have rear-biased AWD. How much headroom will be left for tuning remains to be seen.
BUT, I am all for a performance Buick worthy of the GN/GNX badge. Would be nice to have rear-biased AWD. How much headroom will be left for tuning remains to be seen.
SRT82ECOBOOST
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Livernois has already taken this engine to 445whp and 452 tq in the CTS-V Sport with a tune only:
2014 Cadillac CTS VSPORT
If they make this AWD, it will be on my short list of next cars to get.
2014 Cadillac CTS VSPORT
If they make this AWD, it will be on my short list of next cars to get.
wasinger3000
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They most likely will not put the CTS-V engine in the GNX. If they did it would definitely not get awd. GM does not work like that.
That and gm has a seriously bad business practice. Just look at the ignition switch recall.
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That and gm has a seriously bad business practice. Just look at the ignition switch recall.
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SRT82ECOBOOST
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And how do you know any of these statements to be fact?wasinger3000 said:
wasinger3000
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SRT82ECOBOOST said:
I never stated these as facts. If GM has learned anything about CAFE regulations it will take its beating and move on. If they produce cars that get poor fuel milage they will be fined for every unit produced. On top of that the consumer will then pay a gas guzzler tax on top of the msrp. Yes they can just pass this fine onto the consumer, all that means is you are paying more for something inferior to the rest of the automotive market.
The new business model of Buick is fuel efficiency with its redesign. Yes you can produce a sports car. But it should be a modern day sports car that meets the requirements. The GT500 manages to make 650hp yet still meets fuel regulations.
You can make power and still maintain fuel economy. GM just fails at combining the two.
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black99lightning
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Doubt it. Article I saw referencing it stated it would be in the $30K's, and was poorly written. You can't even get a regal GS for less than $35K.
I'm the original owner of a 87 Buick Turbo and have been a member of the GS Club and Buick Performance Group for years. As much as we wish new GN was in the works, this is just a rumor and last year a member of Buick's marketing team who was at the GS Nationals in Bowling Green was asked about it and she said there are no plans for a new Grand National. Too bad because when the rumors first started 2 years ago, I was all pumped to buy one. Even my wife was on board with that plan 
but it's not to be.
but it's not to be.^^^^^^^^
Below article seems to say otherwise
http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/buick/regal/regal-grand-national/2017-regal-grand-national/
Below article seems to say otherwise
http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/buick/regal/regal-grand-national/2017-regal-grand-national/
GSX-PKV said:I'm the original owner of a 87 Buick Turbo and have been a member of the GS Club and Buick Performance Group for years. As much as we wish new GN was in the works, this is just a rumor and last year a member of Buick's marketing team who was at the GS Nationals in Bowling Green was asked about it and she said there are no plans for a new Grand National. Too bad because when the rumors first started 2 years ago, I was all pumped to buy one. Even my wife was on board with that plan
Definitely not just a rumor. The GN will be here soon.
I was the original owner of a 1996 Buick regal t-type,gray and was my first new car,and was one of the fastest cars in a quarter mile back in the day,until they stole it,man I missed that car,rumors were that the turbo back then was good for about 60k then it was less effective????
Docholliday01
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I never stated these as facts. If GM has learned anything about CAFE regulations it will take its beating and move on. If they produce cars that get poor fuel milage they will be fined for every unit produced. On top of that the consumer will then pay a gas guzzler tax on top of the msrp. Yes they can just pass this fine onto the consumer, all that means is you are paying more for something inferior to the rest of the automotive market.
The new business model of Buick is fuel efficiency with its redesign. Yes you can produce a sports car. But it should be a modern day sports car that meets the requirements. The GT500 manages to make 650hp yet still meets fuel regulations.
You can make power and still maintain fuel economy. GM just fails at combining the two.
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Not sure what you are talking about? Corvettes, particularly the Z06/ZR1 will and or are currently making big power while still getting mid to high 20's MPG wise. Nearly all of GM's performance line meets requirements. Pretty sure the Zr1 din't even get dinged on gas guzzler. Dodge and Ford on the other hand Viper, SRT Challenger/Charger, Ford GT, Cobra/GT500 have never been able to achieve mid/high 20's MPG.
The new business model of Buick is fuel efficiency with its redesign. Yes you can produce a sports car. But it should be a modern day sports car that meets the requirements. The GT500 manages to make 650hp yet still meets fuel regulations.
You can make power and still maintain fuel economy. GM just fails at combining the two.
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Not sure what you are talking about? Corvettes, particularly the Z06/ZR1 will and or are currently making big power while still getting mid to high 20's MPG wise. Nearly all of GM's performance line meets requirements. Pretty sure the Zr1 din't even get dinged on gas guzzler. Dodge and Ford on the other hand Viper, SRT Challenger/Charger, Ford GT, Cobra/GT500 have never been able to achieve mid/high 20's MPG.
Unfortunately GM will F it up like they do with the majority of their "cool" cars. I highly doubt it will look as awesome as it does in the second post. It'll most likely be slow, a four door and look like this...
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/2015-buick-grand-national-and-gnx-25-cars-worth-waiting-for-20142017-future-cars
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/2015-buick-grand-national-and-gnx-25-cars-worth-waiting-for-20142017-future-cars