$3500 for Meth???? WTF

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I understand it's a "Smokin Deal"...LOL    Car is a Looonngg waay from Detroit. 

Biggest issue as I see it is the turbos themselves... Are all those modded turbos subject to seal leaks, and how do you know if the new ones will be any better?? 

While I am aware of some G8 guys who had issues with Livernois installed mods, the vast majority of times, Livernois parts and installation work is first rate. 
 
Robbery is an understatement... especially something that there is a write up on, and multiple people have done them selves.
 
Perhaps I missed it, but is there any particular reason why tuning with ethanol is not an option? It seems to nullify the necessity for meth, with its excellent cooling properties. 50/50 or less mixtures, with an appropriate tuning solution  has worked wonders in the Mazdaspeed community. Or, is the issue lack of fueling capacity on OE equipment with these engines?

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IHeartGroceries said:
Perhaps I missed it, but is there any particular reason why tuning with ethanol is not an option? It seems to nullify the necessity for meth, with its excellent cooling properties. 50/50 or less mixtures, with an appropriate tuning solution  has worked wonders in the Mazdaspeed community. Or, is the issue lack of fueling capacity on OE equipment with these engines?

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As there are no fuel systems mods availably to use at the moment as in DI pump or injectors. Ethanol tuning is out as the stock system isn't capable of handling the extra fuel required for ethanol.
 
A few guys tried pulling a tanker full of E-85 behind their EB vehicles... NO Fueling issues... but found 1/4 mi times suffered tremendously....  22.86 ET @ 45.93 MPH!!!!!
 
Fast SHO said:
I just got quoted $850 for kit and install from a reputable shop.  Gives you some perspective.  lol

Not sure what kit you're receiving, because even Julio @ Alky Controls wouldn't be letting his meth kits fly off the shelves for free.

Berating a reputable vendor, with an errant, generic, blank statement such as the one you've posted, lends itself to some "perspective".

Rather than being so vague, your information would be more helpful if you would consider posting:

The shop performing the work
The actual kit you plan on purchasing (mfg'er/part #) etc.
The (separate) price for the "kit", as well the labor.

Providing the above may help others help themselves make their own decisions as it relates to their own applications.

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Agreed!  NO reason to DISPARAGE ANYONE... Livernois is an excellent company.. they may charge more than you think is fair... but they are what they are because they know what they know and they know what it costs to do things their way. 

However, If one would install a Devils Own kit, complete with tank, controller and braided lines, it probably could be done for that price, provided you didn't have to remove the front clip. If you have a custom CAI like 4DR had or like I have, there is room for the pump below it, and the tank can be installed above pump somewhere inside radiator, and not restrict air flow. It would also take someone who had done this many times...

I might modify Torrie's system to do some or all of this.  But.. if you are mostly looking for power for short bursts, or serious strip time, Torrie's system works fine, you just have to make sure it is primed if you are running long wot runs, like at the strip.  Honestly, I never saw any time I didn't have spray, but like everything... S...T happens... even with Alky Control controllers that Livernois sells!

 
bpd1151 said:
Fast SHO said:
I just got quoted $850 for kit and install from a reputable shop.  Gives you some perspective.  lol

Not sure what kit you're receiving, because even Julio @ Alky Controls wouldn't be letting his meth kits fly off the shelves for free.

Berating a reputable vendor, with an errant, generic, blank statement such as the one you've posted, lends itself to some "perspective".

Rather than being so vague, your information would be more helpful if you would consider posting:

The shop performing the work
The actual kit you plan on purchasing (mfg'er/part #) etc.
The (separate) price for the "kit", as well the labor.

Providing the above may help others help themselves make their own decisions as it relates to their own applications.

:thankyou:


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... And like EBB said
 
Bob w/ Kurgan Motorsports is one of the most reputable tuners in the country when it comes to FI.  And that is where I got the quote.

$3500 is insane pricing and the people on this site should know that.

I'd consider up to $1500 reasonable depending on the setup.
 
Fast SHO said:
Bob w/ Kurgan Motorsports is one of the most reputable tuners in the country when it comes to FI.  And that is where I got the quote.

$3500 is insane pricing and the people on this site should know that.

I'd consider up to $1500 reasonable depending on the setup.
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Whose Kit??? Or does he create his own...  No issue with that... It's what I've done with mods to Torries.
 
No insult intended.. My question was honest... because just as you point out, every one on the site should know.
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