DRL Switchbacks.

ShoBoat

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Living in Canada, we have no choice but to have DRL's active on our cars and trucks. Ford for whatever reason decided to put Halogen projectors on the Canadian SHO's (Even though the 2013's have the ability to be programmed to have the DRL as the turn signal (Which I have rectified with a true HID retrofit). Same as the Explorer and F150's with OEM HID for example. I did the Switchback how to that is on this thread and most of that is relevant to this how to, with one major change. With the V-Leds V3 Triton switchbacks the DRL is white and not amber. Which I thought was worth the change alone. So let me explain further, when you put the car in gear. The turn signal circuit comes on, when you engage the turn signal it flashes. With the V3 Triton you get a White light when the DRL is active and an amber when the turn signal flashes. So on to the how to....
My parts list is for 5K color temp, you can change it to 6K if you wish.
You need to get this stuff:
SwitchBacks
http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/3157-3157ck-3156-led/switchback-led/v3-wa-5k-3157.html   
Sidemarkers
http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/5k-white-led/6-5k.html
Resistors
http://www.vleds.com/resistors/turn-signal-resistors-3/turn-signal-resistors.html
http://www.henkel.com/fullproductlist-electronics.htm?redDotUID=90000000057


Ok since you have all your stuff sitting in front of you with your hood open, and you are about to freak out, have a drink from your fav refreshment. It's not that bad.

The relays are needed due to the way Ford runs the canbus for the DRL and turn signals. The V3's turn off the built in load resistors to protect themselves after a few seconds running in DRL mode. This causes a panic attack by the cpu of the car because now it thinks the bulb is out. The car pulses the circuit the V3 detects a voltage drop and thinks you have turned on your signal. So it goes to amber and turns on the built in load resistors. With the CPU now detecting a load on the circuit it turns it back to normal voltage. And you get the picture, you will get a random switch back when driving around. So this is how I fixed it and its working perfect. 

When you order your V3's ask for Jake, he will set you up with what you need for this job. Ensure that you tell him that you have a Ford and will be running these for DRL. (this also applies to any newer Ford). He will send you the relays and all the good stuff. This write up is for those of us that already has the V3's and wants to run them in DRL mode.

If you have a Taurus (2013 or Newer) You can go to your dealer and ask them to program your car to have the amber lights run as the DRL, instead of Halogen. Or if you have OEM HID just tell them to enable the feature. As per here

http://www.fordtaurus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=17459

Jake at Vleds will get you the relays and the wiring harness, you will only need to run power to the relays. The trig for the relays is your turn signal wire, which is already in the harness. The location I picked for the Load resistors was on the front of the strut towers as per the pics. I used the thermal adhesive to attach them to the metal. This is really important as the load resistors need to dissipate the heat they will generate. Using a temp gun mine topped of at 125F. Well below the threshold of 250F. I really need to clean my engine bay, damn Canadian winters.


And the final result! In this pic you will see that the LED side markers are on. I was alone when I took this so I wasn't crazy about leaving it in gear all by itself. But you get the idea, so you are driving and they are white like in the pic. Once you engage the turn signal they will flash amber, then back to white once the signal is off. I will post a vid of the operation once I get someone to give me a hand. Questions let me know!
Enjoy!


A video of the operation, as you can see in the vid when you first put the car in gear they are amber for about one second. Then they change to white. They also have the ability to dim when the your full headlight system is on, reducing glare to oncoming traffic. The HID also when fully warm matches almost identically to the V3s.





 
I would love to do the switchbacks, but I'm really afraid this job is over my knowledge level...wish you were closer, I'd love to have you help me do these! They look great and you did a great job with them!
 
mjhpadi said:
I would love to do the switchbacks, but I'm really afraid this job is over my knowledge level...wish you were closer, I'd love to have you help me do these! They look great and you did a great job with them!

Thanks! If you are not doing the DRL it truly is plug and play. No hard at all, just make sure you order the newer ford adapter. Jake can walk you through the order.
 
I'll do a how to for just the V3 switchbacks later this weekend. It's a piece of cake. The external stuff listed here is only for the DRL application. And you are correct it's a lot more involved.
 
ShoBoat said:
Added a video of the operation.

The V3 Triton Vleds switchback install is a very straight forward simple install .This topic has been brought up and discussed in several older threads . For those that are apprehensive with electric installs , ShoBoat's idea for a " How to " is a good one . The previous installs and post's are kind of buried and  somewhat difficult to find .

ShoBoat , I would suggest changing the Title in this  Thread  to include  the  wording ..... V-Leds V3 Triton switchback in it .

That way when folks are looking for DRL  or switchback turn signals it will be a little clearer .
 
mjhpadi said:
Video is great...now I think I would like to do the DRL's too...if it's possible with the '10's.
I would imagine it's possible on the pre 13's. Does anybody know how the DRL works with the pre 13's with oem hid? Maybe someone with access to a vcm could have a look to see if the programming is possible?
 
Thx for video. First thing I thought of when I saw that video.......
l just watched Aladdin this morning with my 3 year old daughter
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2010 RCM non PP
K&N panel filter
sp534 @ 30
unleashed 93 performance+firm shift+boost
more to come.....

 
glock-coma said:
Thx for video. First thing I thought of when I saw that video.......
l just watched Aladdin this morning with my 3 year old daughter
6yguqa9y.jpg


2010 RCM non PP
K&N panel filter
sp534 @ 30
unleashed 93 performance+firm shift+boost
more to come.....
:P  LOL ...It may kill you, but it won't eat you!
 
glock-coma said:
Thx for video. First thing I thought of when I saw that video.......
l just watched Aladdin this morning with my 3 year old daughter
LOL!  Does look kinda like it doesn't it!
 
2013 with factory HID and rear leds.  DRL programmed off (stock)
The long story...
I have learned that the bcm monitors these circuits very closely.  If it senses too much current draw it will temporarily disable the output until the turn signal is turned off then on again and set a code in bcm.  If this happens too fast it will kill the output before it can shut itself off. 

I first had the revision 1 of the v3 tritons.  It came with little light bulbs for the load barrel connectors:
The first few tests it blew the parking lamp circuit fuse.  Then testing the turns I would get 1 or 2 flashes of amber then the bcm would switch off its output to that socket (rears still worked), it would go white, and switch to hyperflash.  It would do this with the load bulbs hooked up or not.  I bench tested the units and they weren't pulling anywhere close to the current of the original bulb (even with their load bulbs) so that didn't seem to be the problem.  The socket adapter also seemed correctly wired for the car.  I had the bright idea to turn the turn signal on and off rapidly to try to get it to stay using amber.  This had the wonderful effect of blowing the bcm's output to that socket.  After a fiasco including the dealership installing the wrong bcm for my car I gave up on the idea.

Revision 2 came out with new connectors, a new control unit, and a built in load resistor.  I emailed them and they exchanged me the old version for the new.  The same thing happened but this time it might flash a few times before going into hyperflash and turning solid white.  It did this with the built in load resistor on or off.  I gave up again.

I then found on this forum they had new socket adapters for the newer Fords.  I emailed them and they sent me the new adapters.  They worked much better sitting in my garage for a short test so I fully installed them.  But when I went for a test drive they would randomly switch to hyper flash after being on for several seconds or would hyperflash with solid white when first turned on then work when I switched the signal off then back on (while holding my breath) once.  I don't know if I didn't test them long enough or if the difference between battery or alternator voltage made a difference.  They would do this with the built in load resistor on or off as well.

I learned Forscan can read the bcm codes with my with my obd2 adapter. I  need to see if the bcm sets a code when they go white and the rears hyperflash so I can see if it thinks there's no bulb there or if its shutting down from "over current" protection.  When ever it starts hyperflashing the led's always go white so I presume the output is being turned off.

I've considered making my own control circuit thinking it was just screwing with the bcm tricking it somehow.  I've also read where other brands of cars had to ground the load resistor to chassis and not the sockets ground or the bcm would go crazy.  Using relays like you did would isolate the control circuit from the bcm as well.  How did they have you wire them?
 
dalum said:
2013 with factory HID and rear leds.  DRL programmed off (stock)
The long story...
I have learned that the bcm monitors these circuits very closely.  If it senses too much current draw it will temporarily disable the output until the turn signal is turned off then on again and set a code in bcm.  If this happens too fast it will kill the output before it can shut itself off. 

I first had the revision 1 of the v3 tritons.  It came with little light bulbs for the load barrel connectors:
The first few tests it blew the parking lamp circuit fuse.  Then testing the turns I would get 1 or 2 flashes of amber then the bcm would switch off its output to that socket (rears still worked), it would go white, and switch to hyperflash.  It would do this with the load bulbs hooked up or not.  I bench tested the units and they weren't pulling anywhere close to the current of the original bulb (even with their load bulbs) so that didn't seem to be the problem.  The socket adapter also seemed correctly wired for the car.  I had the bright idea to turn the turn signal on and off rapidly to try to get it to stay using amber.  This had the wonderful effect of blowing the bcm's output to that socket.  After a fiasco including the dealership installing the wrong bcm for my car I gave up on the idea.

Revision 2 came out with new connectors, a new control unit, and a built in load resistor.  I emailed them and they exchanged me the old version for the new.  The same thing happened but this time it might flash a few times before going into hyperflash and turning solid white.  It did this with the built in load resistor on or off.  I gave up again.

I then found on this forum they had new socket adapters for the newer Fords.  I emailed them and they sent me the new adapters.  They worked much better sitting in my garage for a short test so I fully installed them.  But when I went for a test drive they would randomly switch to hyper flash after being on for several seconds or would hyperflash with solid white when first turned on then work when I switched the signal off then back on (while holding my breath) once.  I don't know if I didn't test them long enough or if the difference between battery or alternator voltage made a difference.  They would do this with the built in load resistor on or off as well.

I learned Forscan can read the bcm codes with my with my obd2 adapter. I  need to see if the bcm sets a code when they go white and the rears hyperflash so I can see if it thinks there's no bulb there or if its shutting down from "over current" protection.  When ever it starts hyperflashing the led's always go white so I presume the output is being turned off.

I've considered making my own control circuit thinking it was just screwing with the bcm tricking it somehow.  I've also read where other brands of cars had to ground the load resistor to chassis and not the sockets ground or the bcm would go crazy.  Using relays like you did would isolate the control circuit from the bcm as well.  How did they have you wire them?

Dalum if you have checked ALL of the pins on ALL of the socket connectors on both sides to make SURE they are fully seated and all are OK I can only say one of the control modules is defective .

Both BigMac and my  installs are working fine and we have 2013 models and have not done any extra wiring or relays  .
 
SwampRat said:
Dalum if you have checked ALL of the pins on ALL of the socket connectors on both sides to make SURE they are fully seated and all are OK I can only say one of the control modules is defective .

Both BigMac and my  installs are working fine and we have 2013 models and have not done any extra wiring or relays  .

I only checked all of the the pins on one "side" so far but both sides were doing it so I assume they both would have to have bad control units unless the sides aren't isolated very well in the bcm.  I grabbed each pin with needle nose pliers and tried to pull them out of the connector face or push them back into the connector and nothing budged. 

I know your two cars are working perfectly and its the only reason I've kept trying.  Its making me want to cry and I'm always afraid the bcm's protections will fail and I'll blow the bcm output again.  I presume something was messed up in the original socket adapter.  This is actually the 3rd adapter I've tried.  The first was socket-> barrel connector(v1), second was socket-> weather proof connector(v2), third was "new ford" socket-> weather proof connector(v2). 

Maybe I should test them on my mothers SHO  >:D
 
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