First SHO With Direct Port Methanol injection!!

[ZSHO]

just read through the thread and im stoked to see someone trying something new.  did you ever make it to the track?

Thanks Brother! I did make it to the track right before my issues with Traction was fully rectified! Im just waiting for some better weather and @ the right conditions hoping for some better results! We shall see!  Z

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,9567.0.html

 

[ZSHO]

If I’ve said it once I’ve said it 1000 times. Z that system is pure sex what an amazing job they did. The craftsmanship is unreal on that install.

She is a Tease for sure....
Serious note the install is quality craftsmanship @ its finest to say the least! Thanks for the kind words.  Z 

 

[ZSHO]

Its hard to believe it will be almost 2 years this month since having my custom (DPM) Installed @ LMS FACILITY and couldn't be happier. 
Once again :bigthanx: to Dan Millen and the whole crew over @ LMS for their fine quality craftsmanship and customer service and support which is TOP NOTCH IMO!

I guess some of you know the A/C System being out of commission and will be needing a new Condensor installed and @ the same time placed an order for a new upgraded (Intercooler) from Matt over @ Gearhead along with a new updated Dual Intake from Mike.B over @ www.ecopowerparts.com.

It will be interesting to see how well these Mods work together with the (DPM) MiX- So stay tuned.  Z

 

[shoNoff]

Its hard to believe it will be almost 2 years since having my custom DPM Installed @ LMS FACILITY and could not be happier. 
Once again  :bigthanx: to Dan Millen and the whole crew over @ LMS for their fine quality craftsmanship and customer service and support which is TOP NOTCH IMO!

I guess some of you know the A/C System being out of commission will be needing a new Condensor and @ the same time placed an order for a new upgraded (Intercooler) from Matt over @ Gearhead along with a new updated Intake from Mike.B over @ www.ecopowerparts.com.

It will be interesting to add these Mods to the (DPM) MiX- So stay tuned.  Z

Hell yea Z! Sounds like another car closing in on 120mph trap speeds!

 

[bpd1151]

Congrats Z on continuing down the mod path.

Exciting times ahead for you. Cool stuff.

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[ZSHO]

Congrats Z on continuing down the mod path.

Exciting times ahead for you. Cool stuff.

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Many Thanks there bpd1151! Z 

 

[802SHO]

Congrats on the new mods and you're going to haul @$$ with that setup this year I see 11's for sure!  Upgraded IC and intake will certainly increase volume and the intake will  give the wastegates some relief!  Glad to see more IC and meth cars stepping out!  Certainly is a crowd of E30 IC as of late.  Proven to be very potent.  Lets show how potent our meth+IC SHO's are too!

 

[ZSHO]

True indeed and the very reason I jumped @ the opportunity!!
This combo alone should reduce WG DC by around 8% IIRC! Z

 

[sm105k]

Congrats on the incoming upgrades Z!  11's no doubt.

 

[ZSHO]

:bigthanx: To Matt over @ Gearhead for the new Sleeeek Looking updated Intercooler!
I spoke with Matt @ Gearhead and told him need the new Intercooler ASAP Due to a broken Condenser replacement and LOOK & BEHOLD it arrived today.  :thumb:
I placed the order on Mon-am and received it today!  Awesome customer service and support..
I must say this new IC IS A BEAST TO SAY THE LEAST!!!

BTW Still waiting on the Condenser and hopefully should have it installed by next week if everything goes smooth along with the new updated Dual Intake. PICS to come and much more. Z

Here is a PIC of the 1/4" NPT BUNG Located on (Passenger side) for reference.

1/4" NPT BUNG​

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[bamsho]

Z, Matt did awesome job with his intercooler.  It fits in just like factory.  I'm seeing 5 to 10 degrees below ambient when at WOT and full spray.  You will love it.

 

[ZSHO]

From what I gathered up there are not much Tuning adjustments needed for the car to take Full advantage of the upgraded Intercooler Since it being a Speed Density type of vehicle..

I think it would be wise to monitor or might need to change the wastegate settings from the extra volume AFAIK!
I might speak to Dan Millen to confirm this PRIOR! Correct me if I'm wrong! Z

 

[802SHO]

I followed the intercooler threads and I believe you are correct.  The intercooler increases WGDC and so the wastegates can be tuned to accomodate the increase in volume to minimize the overall increase in duty cycle.  At least that's my understanding.  Perhaps someone else can chime in. 

 

[SHOdded]

This site is a must read for ecoboost owners
https://stratifiedauto.com/blog/what-wastegate-duty-cycle-and-boost-curve-can-tell-us-about-our-turbo-setups/

"When we want the turbo to spool we run as high WGDC as possible until the turbo spools and then we quickly drop WGDC into a steady state zone without overshooting the boost target. When we want to slow down the turbo we run LESS WGDC and when we want to speed up the turbo we run MORE WGDC."

You can process more air or denser air.  Either way you make more power.  Since you are processing denser air with a better intercooler, you do not need to cycle the wastegate as much to achieve the same level of power.  Just like with bigger turbos you need less boost to achieve the same power.  Win-Win.

 

[sm105k]

This site is a must read for ecoboost owners
https://stratifiedauto.com/blog/what-wastegate-duty-cycle-and-boost-curve-can-tell-us-about-our-turbo-setups/

"When we want the turbo to spool we run as high WGDC as possible until the turbo spools and then we quickly drop WGDC into a steady state zone without overshooting the boost target. When we want to slow down the turbo we run LESS WGDC and when we want to speed up the turbo we run MORE WGDC."

You can process more air or denser air.  Either way you make more power.  Since you are processing denser air with a better intercooler, you do not need to cycle the wastegate as much to achieve the same level of power.  Just like with bigger turbos you need less boost to achieve the same power.  Win-Win.

Good stuff.  Looks like I need to get some catless DP's.

 

[StealBlueSHO]

From what I gathered up there are not much Tuning adjustments needed for the car to take Full advantage of the upgraded Intercooler Since it being a Speed Density type of vehicle..

I think it would be wise to monitor or might need to change the wastegate settings from the extra volume AFAIK!
I might speak to Dan Millen to confirm this PRIOR! Correct me if I'm wrong! Z

I have posted about this.....

Yes, the LMS tune will compensate for the increased volume of the IC.

No, it will not be optimal. There are adjustments that need to be made within the tune, you will not be able to keep desired boost as well past 5000 rpms. I lost about a half psi at the manifold and boost wasn’t as steady. Also the wastegate ramped harder trying to achieve desired boost.

I spoke to LMS about this, offered to log with their device so it could be addressed. Was told their device didn’t have the right PIDs to monitor and it should just be fine as is... in short, without paying them a boat load of money to put it on the rollers there, they were not gonna touch the tune. And when asked about getting the car up there for it, they were not interested in it even then...

Again, it will work. The turbos will be worked harder, the boost will fluctuate more, but the advantage of the IC makes up for the issues. The denser/colder air will generate more power.

 

[ZSHO]

This site is a must read for ecoboost owners
https://stratifiedauto.com/blog/what-wastegate-duty-cycle-and-boost-curve-can-tell-us-about-our-turbo-setups/

"When we want the turbo to spool we run as high WGDC as possible until the turbo spools and then we quickly drop WGDC into a steady state zone without overshooting the boost target. When we want to slow down the turbo we run LESS WGDC and when we want to speed up the turbo we run MORE WGDC."

You can process more air or denser air.  Either way you make more power.  Since you are processing denser air with a better intercooler, you do not need to cycle the wastegate as much to achieve the same level of power.  Just like with bigger turbos you need less boost to achieve the same power.  Win-Win.

Good stuff.  Looks like I need to get some catless DP's.

Based on the article Catless DP are the way to go! Dunno! Z

 

[ZSHO]

From what I gathered up there are not much Tuning adjustments needed for the car to take Full advantage of the upgraded Intercooler Since it being a Speed Density type of vehicle..

I think it would be wise to monitor or might need to change the wastegate settings from the extra volume AFAIK!
I might speak to Dan Millen to confirm this PRIOR! Correct me if I'm wrong! Z

I have posted about this.....

Yes, the LMS tune will compensate for the increased volume of the IC.

No, it will not be optimal. There are adjustments that need to be made within the tune, you will not be able to keep desired boost as well past 5000 rpms. I lost about a half psi at the manifold and boost wasn’t as steady. Also the wastegate ramped harder trying to achieve desired boost.

I spoke to LMS about this, offered to log with their device so it could be addressed. Was told their device didn’t have the right PIDs to monitor and it should just be fine as is... in short, without paying them a boat load of money to put it on the rollers there, they were not gonna touch the tune. And when asked about getting the car up there for it, they were not interested in it even then...

Again, it will work. The turbos will be worked harder, the boost will fluctuate more, but the advantage of the IC makes up for the issues. The denser/colder air will generate more power.

Agreed! If the Wastegates seem lazy from the extra volume that's all that may be needed! Z

 

[StealBlueSHO]

From what I gathered up there are not much Tuning adjustments needed for the car to take Full advantage of the upgraded Intercooler Since it being a Speed Density type of vehicle..

I think it would be wise to monitor or might need to change the wastegate settings from the extra volume AFAIK!
I might speak to Dan Millen to confirm this PRIOR! Correct me if I'm wrong! Z

I have posted about this.....

Yes, the LMS tune will compensate for the increased volume of the IC.

No, it will not be optimal. There are adjustments that need to be made within the tune, you will not be able to keep desired boost as well past 5000 rpms. I lost about a half psi at the manifold and boost wasn’t as steady. Also the wastegate ramped harder trying to achieve desired boost.

I spoke to LMS about this, offered to log with their device so it could be addressed. Was told their device didn’t have the right PIDs to monitor and it should just be fine as is... in short, without paying them a boat load of money to put it on the rollers there, they were not gonna touch the tune. And when asked about getting the car up there for it, they were not interested in it even then...

Again, it will work. The turbos will be worked harder, the boost will fluctuate more, but the advantage of the IC makes up for the issues. The denser/colder air will generate more power.

Agreed! If the Wastegates seem lazy from the extra volume that's all that may be needed! Z

BamSHO put upgraded WG actuators on at the same time he did the IC upgrade... says the combo works really well.


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[FLEXXX]

do you have a part number for the intercooler?