SwampRat said:explorergotoluvit said:is this going to work with the xsport?
SHO / MKS/ FLEX / MKT
Tom@ecoboostperformance said:Some things on this:
If this is made it will fit ALL transverse V6 cars, the pre-turbo stuff is the same, it's just the IC piping that's different, that's why the hot pipes won't work. Still working on sourcing one and having time to make one. If I were to do this I think the best case scenario would be to utilize at least the stock lower box for it's cold air scenario and either use the top box with the new piping to the turbo or a new top box that is sealed + new piping to the turbos.
The key for us would be to make the flow from the airbox to turbos cleaner and look better. The problem is that both of my prototyping facilities I work with are behind the gun and getting busier due to me sending them too much work....
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BiGMaC said:I've looked at the pic some more... love the tubing changes...no more tapering "saxophone or nasty looking plastic, although I wonder why not 2 separate tubes from the box, 1 to each turbo. A great improvement I think.
IMHO... still believe a closed filter box is the way to keep underhood air (not cold) from entering. The air should be drawn from outside the engine compartment via large bore closed tubing (piping like the pic) to have the coolest air possible. Mike B and I discussed this development idea today over at Black Market Racing/Full Race... I think we may get going on the development again as soon as the cutouts are ready.
black99lightning said:BiGMaC said:I've looked at the pic some more... love the tubing changes...no more tapering "saxophone or nasty looking plastic, although I wonder why not 2 separate tubes from the box, 1 to each turbo. A great improvement I think.
IMHO... still believe a closed filter box is the way to keep underhood air (not cold) from entering. The air should be drawn from outside the engine compartment via large bore closed tubing (piping like the pic) to have the coolest air possible. Mike B and I discussed this development idea today over at Black Market Racing/Full Race... I think we may get going on the development again as soon as the cutouts are ready.
The only problem with putting a filter outside the engine compartment is moisture. Some of us, like myself, deal with a lot of rain and standing water.
SHODYOU said:Not saying I disagree, but in the Mustang world the short ram air intakes make as much or more power than kits with filter over in the fender. Because once rolling the iat's are the same between both, its only in stop and go traffic where the cai does a better job.
I have tons of datalogs from the Mustang to prove it
Ford and GM both utilize open element filters inside the engine bay... the new Z28 and GT500 are both this way.
4DRHTRD said:Just FYI if you buy an intake that pulls air from inside the engine compartment myself, EB Bob and others found that you lose .2 and 2MPH in the 1/4 mile.
The stock intake with a stock filter beat a $300 intake repeatedly at the track...
So pretty intake but you just lost 20HP.
Function > Form for me.
Cold Air Intakes Mythbusted
bigmoneycloser said:SwampRat said:explorergotoluvit said:is this going to work with the xsport?
SHO / MKS/ FLEX / MKT
XSport always being left out... ;(
4DRHTRD said:Just FYI if you buy an intake that pulls air from inside the engine compartment myself, EB Bob and others found that you lose .2 and 2MPH in the 1/4 mile.
The stock intake with a stock filter beat a $300 intake repeatedly at the track...
So pretty intake but you just lost 20HP.
Function > Form for me.
Cold Air Intakes Mythbusted
panther427 said:I think it we can agree that at stock levels the current Airraid and K & N CAI don't do much if anything.. The way i have viewed CAI is they are supporting mod.. There purpose it to make the most of your other mods. The stock box is well designed not that pretty but it does work.. To me the issue has alwasy been the rest of the intake pipe.. That is a horrible mess. Stock levels obviously it works. But when you increase the demand on airflow via a tune, downpipes and the larger turbos i bet there is alot of restriction and i could see how you could gain a pound of boost. The turbos can breathe easier.. then can spend less engergy sucking in air and more of it compressing the air..
Im realy curious what modification Fastlane is making to there kit that they will be making this week.
BiGMaC said:SW's idea is good too, and done well would be more aesthetic than a lot of the intake ideas. Don't know if there's room below the middle of the hood though... maybe to the sides... reverse the direction of what bpd did? ...
I still feel that a cowl hood mod , maybe in combination with a "sealed to the intake scoop" might be the best for the intake to filter side as well as help keep engine temps down by creating flow around the engine... just don't want to see a warmed up engine with oil temps , about 165 degrees where some oil flow and lube problems could surface. And yes... We MUST eliminate that morass of the plastic pipe from the filter box (whatever it is) to the turbo inlets I'm sure.