Has anyone done aftermarket pads and rotors on a 13+ PP?

[sunwolf]

Im looking for new pads and rotors that will give me some more stopping power. I called autoanything and the guy told me that my only real option was Baer Decela for rotors and they would be best paired up with EBC yellow stuff for about $1000. From what I see everywhere the websites that sell brakes mention nothing about the performance pack and the guy was telling me that the EBC's are only for the non PP. I really don't want to spend that much on brakes an I'm curious to see if anyone has a solution.

 

[ZSHO]

I have 22k on mine and pretty satisfied with the stopping power besides that annoying squeak which have an appt on friday,can try to find out for you if they updated the pads to a better compound or if they can suggest a better alternative.Z.

 

[Dxlnt1]

Using Duralst pads and rotors on my 2011. The pads Im using are apparently from a 2013 model. DOnt remember if PP or not but only difference is retaining clid on newer models.

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,4462.msg69287.html#msg69287

 

[ajpturbo]

I'm going to try ebc blue stuff ndx...they are a track pad that is streetable...I he them on my g35 and liked them...ebc reccomemended yellow stuff then I told them sometime I drive my car 140 and they said I want blue stuff...sometimes my drives turn into time trials

 

[sunwolf]

Using Duralst pads and rotors on my 2011. The pads Im using are apparently from a 2013 model. DOnt remember if PP or not but only difference is retaining clid on newer models.

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,4462.msg69287.html#msg69287

The clip is the only difference on the standard SHO. The performance pack has bigger rotors and the rear rotors are vented. I need to know about Performance Pack aftermarket options.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

Using Duralst pads and rotors on my 2011. The pads Im using are apparently from a 2013 model. DOnt remember if PP or not but only difference is retaining clid on newer models.

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,4462.msg69287.html#msg69287

The clip is the only difference on the standard SHO. The performance pack has bigger rotors and the rear rotors are vented. I need to know about Performance Pack aftermarket options.

On the 2013's the only difference is pads...

 

[ZSHO]

yup.only the pads are different,the Rotors are the same size,besides the PP having on F/R hjgh temp silicone piston boots,drilled pistons(for improved cooling)and also calibration on the booster,possibly high performance brake fluid.

 

[sunwolf]

On my 2014 PP the rear rotors are vented so I think they are thicker.

 

[ZSHO]

On my 2014 PP the rear rotors are vented so I think they are thicker.

If your talking about Diameter they are the same,the rears appear to be vented which is better for cooling,in respect to width it seems very little difference,it appears that the rotors can be ordered black to match the calipers,but need to verify that tommorrow at the dealer,but the brake pads and struts,shocks can be ordered in black for a little extra to match the calipers wich seems pretty cool to have.Z.  https://www.rockauto.com/info/48/DG1Z2C026A-FRO.jpg

 

[sunwolf]

"The brakes get a larger master cylinder bore for a pedal ratio change that gives you less travel at the top of the pedal for a firmer feel, and the rear vented brake rotors are 30 percent larger. The already massive vented front rotors get dual piston 48-mm calipers with performance friction pads, and the pistons themselves have high-temp dust boots and seals that pull the pads more effectively away from the discs for less heat buildup." From road and track review of the 13 with PP - http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a18234/2013-ford-taurus-sho-with-performance-package/

And From the ford website:
Not sure if the 15 PP has even bigger brakes or if it is the same as 13 and 14.

 

[moem1090]

I don't want to offend anyone on the post but if you love you're car stay away from anything duralast. On my 10' SHO I put akebono brake pads and they are great, no noise, no brake dust along with power stop drilled & slotted rotors. Easy to clean and constant stares.

 

[panther427]

By Duralast do you mean duracrap.... Built to fail.  Sorry I would have agree about there parts. But some brakes are Better than no brakes
I tend to avoid AutoZone parts unless a it's a need and they are the only ones with the part.  But I will admit the black rotors sure looked nice

 

[ZSHO]

I always try sticking with oem parts for many reasons,personally avoid retail chain stores,unless its an emergency and have no choice but purchase Duralast products or to discard some used oil.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

"The brakes get a larger master cylinder bore for a pedal ratio change that gives you less travel at the top of the pedal for a firmer feel, and the rear vented brake rotors are 30 percent larger. The already massive vented front rotors get dual piston 48-mm calipers with performance friction pads, and the pistons themselves have high-temp dust boots and seals that pull the pads more effectively away from the discs for less heat buildup." From road and track review of the 13 with PP - http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a18234/2013-ford-taurus-sho-with-performance-package/

And From the ford website:
Not sure if the 15 PP has even bigger brakes or if it is the same as 13 and 14.

This was verified by my contacts at the dealership.

I have a 2013 non-PP and a 2015 PP sitting in my garage and I'm telling you they are exactly the same

The entire 2013 line was changed because gen 4.1 sucked so badly.

There was plenty of erroneous info in the 2013 reviews and there was even one reviewer who thought he had a PP car when it was in fact non-PP.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

On my 2014 PP the rear rotors are vented so I think they are thicker.

They are vented on my 2013 non-PP

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

Powerstop has some sweet options for our cars, they even have a Police Package kit I've been eyeballing.

Kind of a moot point now, however.

 

[crash712us]

My buddy owns a auto repair shop. Swears by Akebono's. And they are OEM equipment on many high end cars.

However I run EBC red stuff and there ultimax rotors for 3yrs now. Nothing but good things to say about EBC.


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[sunwolf]

Just emailed EBC to see if they know which of their brakes will work on the 14 PP.

 

[Mac98SHO]

"The brakes get a larger master cylinder bore for a pedal ratio change that gives you less travel at the top of the pedal for a firmer feel, and the rear vented brake rotors are 30 percent larger. The already massive vented front rotors get dual piston 48-mm calipers with performance friction pads, and the pistons themselves have high-temp dust boots and seals that pull the pads more effectively away from the discs for less heat buildup." From road and track review of the 13 with PP - http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a18234/2013-ford-taurus-sho-with-performance-package/

And From the ford website:
Not sure if the 15 PP has even bigger brakes or if it is the same as 13 and 14.

This was verified by my contacts at the dealership.

I have a 2013 non-PP and a 2015 PP sitting in my garage and I'm telling you they are exactly the same

The entire 2013 line was changed because gen 4.1 sucked so badly.

There was plenty of erroneous info in the 2013 reviews and there was even one reviewer who thought he had a PP car when it was in fact non-PP.

Calipers front and rear are different on the 13 PP and Non -PP. Rotors are the same. Master Cylinder is upgraded also. As for your 15 I am not sure (side bar--not sure why ford would chg this between the 15 non and PP unless to bring cost down on parts) But the 13's  I know that the part numbers are different,  and I have compared them with my friends 13 non PP. 

My Opinion- I would stay with stock rotors and change pads... But honestly I have flogged my brakes on three track days(road courses) turn them blue over and over more times than I can count and my car still stops great. Though I do need a brake job this year once spring gets here...lol

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

"The brakes get a larger master cylinder bore for a pedal ratio change that gives you less travel at the top of the pedal for a firmer feel, and the rear vented brake rotors are 30 percent larger. The already massive vented front rotors get dual piston 48-mm calipers with performance friction pads, and the pistons themselves have high-temp dust boots and seals that pull the pads more effectively away from the discs for less heat buildup." From road and track review of the 13 with PP - http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a18234/2013-ford-taurus-sho-with-performance-package/

And From the ford website:
Not sure if the 15 PP has even bigger brakes or if it is the same as 13 and 14.

This was verified by my contacts at the dealership.

I have a 2013 non-PP and a 2015 PP sitting in my garage and I'm telling you they are exactly the same

The entire 2013 line was changed because gen 4.1 sucked so badly.

There was plenty of erroneous info in the 2013 reviews and there was even one reviewer who thought he had a PP car when it was in fact non-PP.

Calipers front and rear are different on the 13 PP and Non -PP. Rotors are the same. Master Cylinder is upgraded also. As for your 15 I am not sure (side bar--not sure why ford would chg this between the 15 non and PP unless to bring cost down on parts) But the 13's  I know that the part numbers are different,  and I have compared them with my friends 13 non PP. 

My Opinion- I would stay with stock rotors and change pads... But honestly I have flogged my brakes on three track days(road courses) turn them blue over and over more times than I can count and my car still stops great. Though I do need a brake job this year once spring gets here...lol

The Ford part numbers mean nothing, many same parts have different part numbers across the product line. An example is the ecoboost 3.5 across the different platforms wont share the same part number.