Hawk hps pads correct pad for 2013 pp

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avidmotion

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Is the Hawk Performance HB674F.664 HPS Brake Pad the correct part number for rear pads on a 2013 SHO with PP?
Where is a good place to buy? I found them 58 bucks free shipping, this part number. The stock pads seem fine for my needs. Dealer installed new pads on front,  bought used vehicle with 37,000 miles. Has 45,000 now and down to paper on rear. To me stock pads dust alot, work well, grab good cold or hot and wet, but actually cost more/as much as aftermarket. Also when Ford says the PP has "performance friction" pads, do they mean just performance oriented pads or the name brand Performance Friction?
Thanks for any help.
 
The rears are the same on the non-PP and PP pack SHOs, so these should be OK.  Tirerack.com has these for 77, so 58 is a good deal, can find on Amazon also for the price.

12 DG1Z-2200-B BRAKE PADS
AWD, 2013-16, W/O POLICE INTERCEPTOR, W/SHO
$76.98 $53.12
12 DG1Z-2200-B REAR PADS
TAURUS; 3.5L; W/TURBO; SHO PACKAGE 1
$76.98 $53.12
 
Thanks for the reply, anyone have thoughts about Hawk hps vs stock "performance friction" pads? Any better with no bad traits for DD driven like stolen but never on the track......hmmmm that don't sound good
 
Just to give you a heads up the HPS pads are insanely dirty compared to the factory pads but they will stop well.  I run HPS on my Mustangs street duty and HP+ for track.
 
I have run Hawk pads of several varieties and don't have anything bad to say about them.  That being said, I would probably go with Motorcraft PP pads.  It's always a good option to go with factory when there's a performance version available from the factory.  I would NOT want the non-PP pads as they do not provide enough friction for my taste.

If you go the factory route, I suggest taking your VIN to your local Ford dealer and have them order them.  From the factory they will come as a kit that includes new lube and all of the shims/backing plates, etc plus instructions.

I found out the hard way that it's next to impossible to ensure that you are getting the PP parts any other way.  Use your VIN and all will be good.
 
Yea I do like the PP brakes so far I have no problems and for my applications work well. Usually when have to do maintenence i like to upgrade, and usually that means aftermarket.  Usually aftermarket is better and cheaper. I also hate dealers. Rock auto or another mail order ford dealer has better prices, just have to hope to get the right parts and on this particular application there is a lot of variation.
 
Forgot to add the stock PP pads are quite good. Excellent initial bite and even with some of my canyon shenanigans I haven't had any fade.
 
Ok, after nearly a week of poking around looking at options I am now thoroughly confused. Do we have 325 mm front or 352 mm front rotors? I have a 2013 PP SHO. Build date 03-2012. Currently I just need rear pads. My rotors are perfect front and rear. (44,500 miles) I see many people opted for the power slot Z 23 pads. They are ceramic. What is our "performance friction " pad formulation, I think it is performance oriented semi metallic. I like the ferro-carbon formulation of the Hawk HPS.The new Hawk 5.0 street/strip formulation sounds great but no pads for the SHO yet.
Power slot Z 26 sounds ok, but no pads listed for SHO. Akebono are ceramic.
No listing for taurus on many actual Hawk sites.
Can someone list Ford's part numbers for a 2013 PP SHO Stock rear pads and front pads too.? Can you mix stock fronts with organic rears? My fronts look new. Rears 10%, need asap, rotors look new. Thanks
 
Thank you that's perfect, I'll just get the stock PP pads and be done with it, for me they have been fine, in the spring I'll change the fluid again and put on ss brakelines. I did these on many cars before and could really tell a difference.
Does anyone know what the stock pad formulation is?
 
To answer my own question, the stock 2013+pp brake pad formulation is the same as the Hawk hps, ferro carbon semi metallic, with a giant groove down the middle....
 
Ok ending up getting the pp sho 2013+ stock ceramic rear pads and added dot 4 fluid and new SS lines. Now I am down to 30% on the fronts. The stock PP seem ok but I want better. I will try the Hawk hps......see any deals
 
Arent the pads for 2013+ all the same with the exception of material?  As in PP and non-PP pads all fit interchangeably the same, but the PP is semi-metallic and the non-PP is ceramic, or something similar.  If that is the case then any 2013+ pad would fit PP and non-PP cars equally well (hence none are labeled as PP).  Or am I mistaken... I'm currently looking into pads/rotors for my 2014 MKS, so I'd appreciate any clarification.
 
It's insanely complicated.  There are at least two different pad designs for our cars.  The OEM PP pads seem to have more material (less dead space) than the OEM non-PP pads.  Once you start looking at aftermarket options, some are one design, some are the other, and some are different all together.  All work with PP or non-PP calipers since they are the same caliper body.

I changed to PP calipers and used Raybestos police spec rotors and pads.  The pads ended up being the non-PP shape despite ordering them for a PP car.

If I had it to do all over again, I would go with OEM PP calipers, pads, and rotors.  Just get a VIN from a PP car and use that to get the correct parts from a dealer or online Ford parts supplier.
 
AgentLongwood you are correct. I eventually got EBC RK Sport rotors with EBC yellowstuff pads. PP and NON-PP pads are interchangeable on 2013+, only difference is  the pad material. The EBC set up is beyond my expectations,  yellowstuff pads are awesome, work well wet or cold. About 30% stickier then the stock PP pads, which to me were plenty good.
 
That's good to hear.  Glad to get that clarified between the different pads.  I'm looking into buying a set now, so that makes things easier.  I'm leaning towards the EBC red stuff, and USR rotors.  From reading the EBC website, it looks like EBC outsources the RK rotors and then does their quality control stuff, and surface finishing to make them black.  While it looks like the USR rotors are made by EBC... but then some of the language is a bit ambiguous and they might both be outsourced, lol.  I may give them a call later today and find out for sure. 

EDIT:  I called EBC and it turns out that there are some rotors that they buy from OEM manufacturers and then do their own quality control on.  The rotors for our cars specifically do NOT fall in that category.  Ours are manufactured in house, from scratch.  It took a while for me to get across what I was asking to the rep, but once it was cleared up she knew exactly what I was talking about.  She looked it up and said that since these rotors were shared by so many Ford vehicles, it made sense for them to manufacture them instead of source them.  Phew...
 
Just note that the USR rotors do make noise.  We have them on another car and I'm a huge fan.  They do as advertised and are good to over 100,000 miles.  Just be aware that the slots do cause additional noise.

EBC has brought out a new rotor (BSD) with a different cut pattern to lessen the noise.  I don't know if they are considered higher or lower level than USR's.

I'm in the middle of a brake upgrade on the the other car and going USR's again.
 
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