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"How- to" Access Advanced Ford PIDs Using a Scan Tool
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breeves002
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Can someone with a 2013 PLEASE post a screenshot of all the HS and MSCAN modules they have? I only can find details up to the 2011 MY. I know they have more for the 2013 MY. 2011 and 2012 should be the same..
That would be AWESOME.
That would be AWESOME.
breeves002
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Also... in addition, someone with an OBDLink MX or a scan tool with the STN1170 chip, can you please tell me if you can stream data from BOTH MS and HSCAN at the same time with it? I have to switch it over with the ELM327, and it would be cool to be able to use both!
If you have an OBDLink MX or scan tool with the STN1170 and have some free time please PM me. I'll even let you use my copy of ScanXL to help find me some data! It's for the community anyways.
If you have an OBDLink MX or scan tool with the STN1170 and have some free time please PM me. I'll even let you use my copy of ScanXL to help find me some data! It's for the community anyways.
breeves002
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adelsin said:Im on my tab, I have the one mentioned in the link earlier, would that work?
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Yes that one will work perfectly!
Also please screenshot me all the HS and MS CAN modules your 2013 has! Just go to the self test page like I did (in the first post, last picture) and screenshot it and upload it here! I'll add any more to that.
I believe you have a BCM instead of a SJB. Ford just started using that instead.
breeves002
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adelsin said:I will do this first thing after work. Will FORscan work? I have obdwiz that came with the device as well.
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OBDWiz is good for Mode $06, but worthless for almost everything else. Love it for diagnosing misfires though!
Please use FORScan. Let me know if it shows MS-CAN modules like the ACM or BCM/SJB!! If it doesn't, then I'll send you my copy of ScanXL and hopefully that will see it. Once you see all of the modules, go to the self test page and upload a screenshot of that here to show all of the different modules. The real question is can you view data from HS and MS can at the same time. So try recording PIDs from HVAC and from the PCM at the same time. Not sure how it will work, but good luck! We can always try ScanXL if FORScan doesn't work (since its a beta program). However FORScan may be the best scan tool software under $5000!!
breeves002
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dalum said:I was under the impression the SJB was the bridge for the low and high speed busses in the '13. The dealer put the wrong SJB in my car and nothing could talk to each other anymore. Te dash lit up like a Christmas tree and all the modules were throwing codes.
On a 2013 there is a seperate gateway module that bridges the four networks. I think that that is separate from the BCM. The 2013 has a BCM instead so if they put in an SJB from a 2010-2012, then you would have huge problems obviously!
breeves002
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dalum said:My ford tech cd still calls it a SJB I think. It was the "fuse box" under the dash I believe I'll have to look at it again tomorrow. The output for my drivers front turn signal got hosed.
They may not have updated it. I'm 90% sure that its a BCM in the 2013's. It's virtually the same thing, just different terminology. On any car without a gateway module the networks meet up in the instrument cluster. I could be wrong on the BCM, I'll try to find out for sure.
I have confirmation that the devices from Scantool.net:
http://www.scantool.net/obdlink-mx.html
and
http://www.scantool.net/scan-tools/smart-phone/obdlink-bluetooth.html
Can do both HS and MS CAN data logging, I am working on confirming if it is simultaneously.
No switch required.
I'm also working on getting myself set up as a dealer or have them set up some group buys.
Great thing is they are here in Phoenix with me.
http://www.scantool.net/obdlink-mx.html
and
http://www.scantool.net/scan-tools/smart-phone/obdlink-bluetooth.html
Can do both HS and MS CAN data logging, I am working on confirming if it is simultaneously.
No switch required.
I'm also working on getting myself set up as a dealer or have them set up some group buys.
Great thing is they are here in Phoenix with me.
breeves002
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Thats great news! Planning on finding out some sweet info on a 2013 tonight so stay tuned!
EDIT: Just read you are trying to find out if it works simultaneously. That is the big question. I knew at least the first could do both.
I'm planning on buying one of these pretty soon: http://batman.homelinux.com/blog/stn1170-bluetooth-obdii-adapter/
It's the STN1170 chip but costs less than the OBDLink MX.
The only thing I could ask for now is access to dealer scan tool software as well as a writable scan tool device. Of course even if I got the dealer software for free, the hardware is crazy expensive.
EDIT: Just read you are trying to find out if it works simultaneously. That is the big question. I knew at least the first could do both.
I'm planning on buying one of these pretty soon: http://batman.homelinux.com/blog/stn1170-bluetooth-obdii-adapter/
It's the STN1170 chip but costs less than the OBDLink MX.
The only thing I could ask for now is access to dealer scan tool software as well as a writable scan tool device. Of course even if I got the dealer software for free, the hardware is crazy expensive.
Read in the manual about BCM today... hope that helps. I should be available about 5pm tonight AZ time.
Need to load the laptop with scantool drivers, download and install forscan, and for time's sake, get teamviewer on it. I'm on point to point wireless with no dedicated IP. You may have to settle for skype.
Need to load the laptop with scantool drivers, download and install forscan, and for time's sake, get teamviewer on it. I'm on point to point wireless with no dedicated IP. You may have to settle for skype.
I set up FORscan and my adapter... Enabled hscan on the sofyware... Then my awd turned off then on a lot threw some abs codes and then service awd light came on then off...
Couldnt find any of the 4wd pids mentioned in the screenshot. Do i have to do something to get them to show?
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Couldnt find any of the 4wd pids mentioned in the screenshot. Do i have to do something to get them to show?
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Hmmm...mine did something similar with the ABS (threw a code related to ABS but not the 4x4 module) but thought it was just me. Try this. Turn off the car. unplug the adapter. Close Forscan. Restart the car and the adapter. Then try and run Forscan again. Clear the DTC's. Try connecting again. If that doesn't work repeat the "reset".
The code seemed to keep Forscan from working somehow although I could clear it. I'm assuming you don't have any other OBD readers (i.e. Torque) connected at the same time. That would give pretty unpredictable results.
The code seemed to keep Forscan from working somehow although I could clear it. I'm assuming you don't have any other OBD readers (i.e. Torque) connected at the same time. That would give pretty unpredictable results.
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