Is the D and S position the same when tuned?

[purebe]

Is there any difference between being in drive vs S (sport?) when tuned?

I kind of doubt it's possible, but it'd be cool to have one of them for winter conditions and one of them for summer conditions.

Also, I was talking to someone at the dealership about tuning cars and he said he always buys a used ECU with a stock flash so he can change out his ECU before he takes the vehicle in for work.  Would that actually do anything over just flashing back to stock?  He was also talking about motorcycles I think, I'm not sure how feasible it would be to do in a car.

 

[Rockstar04]

Also, I was talking to someone at the dealership about tuning cars and he said he always buys a used ECU with a stock flash so he can change out his ECU before he takes the vehicle in for work.  Would that actually do anything over just flashing back to stock?  He was also talking about motorcycles I think, I'm not sure how feasible it would be to do in a car.

I'm not sure how one of our cars would handle just having a PCM switched out, but I have heard that Ford can tell how many times a PCM has had its calibration modified.

 

[ajpturbo]

99.99% sure you cant swap ecu without having access to IDS..the ecu is vin locked and if you install a new ecu you have to do what is called a pmi in ids....programmable module installation...that basically initializes and flashes the pcm with a calibration....with new fords you cant even swap an instrument cluster without ids and doing a pmi and going through the as built data

I have ids and needed to do that to put the boss cluster in my gt mustang

 

[sholxgt]

D and S continue to work as they do stock.  S will continue to have more pedal multiplication for throttle, lock out 6th gear, and allow access to manual shifting.  No change from stock.

There is NO need for an extra PCM in this application.  In some vehicles (modern dodge, jeep, chrysler, ram) and some older cars, it is/was required to send your PCM off to be unlocked prior to reflashing.  With our cars, the tuner itself is capable of unlocking the PCM and performing the reflash.

Even if Ford has some way to tell how many times the PCM has been flashed, they have no way to know if it was flashed with an aftermarket tune.  For all they know, it was flashed with a stock tune a 100 times trying to get the PCM to accept the tune.  My car has been flashed at least twice by the dealer alone.

 

[Vortech347]

In a former A-hole strategy I had, the tuning process was yielding very different results between Drive and Sport.  Including transmission settings and boost profiles.

However they have now been addressed and all is well after having the dealer do a reflash to change my strategy.

 

[ajpturbo]

In a former A-hole strategy I had, the tuning process was yielding very different results between Drive and Sport.  Including transmission settings and boost profiles.

However they have now been addressed and all is well after having the dealer do a reflash to change my strategy.

Anything else change?..how was it reccomemded to you to change the strategy? ;D ;D

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

What is this secret a-hole strategy?

 

[sholxgt]

What is this secret a-hole strategy?

Not sure what it is, but I may have it!  After a lengthy and very un-enjoyable phone call with an SCT employee that was fairly rude, he informed me that my strategy code in his system showed that it is for a v8 Town Car.

That was after he tried MULTIPLE times to tell me that my vehicle is not supported by SCT.

They were going to "call me right back" regarding my vehicle running the defrost on high fan during the flash and then my fuel gauge reading zero fuel after flash.  That was 10 days ago now.

 

[SHOdded]

Well, if that ain't enough to make you switch ...

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

Well, if that ain't enough to make you switch ...

There's some real morons working at SCT.

I emailed them to confirm that spark V2 was spark after all adders and compensations.

Their response was download this program so we can access your laptop and fix the issue....really?

And where the hell is the GTX?

 

[MightBeASynth]

Well, if that ain't enough to make you switch ...

This has been my problem with SCT support and some other vendors and local shops. If you don't own what they think is a "cool" car they don't want to help you. It does not matter how much money and effort you have in the car. You shoulda bought a GTR or something.....sigh.

 

[sholxgt]

Well, if that ain't enough to make you switch ...

There's some real morons working at SCT.

I emailed them to confirm that spark V2 was spark after all adders and compensations.

Their response was download this program so we can access your laptop and fix the issue....really?

And where the hell is the GTX?

I hesitantly let them do that with me.  They took control of my PC while the programmer was plugged in so they could access all data.  Guessing all they did was steal the custom programs I had loaded.  Very sorry to those that I had programs from.    I didn't think about it till afterward.

After my call with them, they are on my short list of companies with VERY poor customer service.  The guy literally said "your car is not supported by us" after each sentence he spoke.  Half an hour later, he changed his mind, but was still rude.

 

[BOT_ROCKET]

This is not encouraging info...

 

[MightBeASynth]

The tuners themselves are pretty cool. Folks like AJP restore my faith in using the hardware, still SCT does not even QA the data they release it seems.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

This is not encouraging info...

Especially if the person I communicated with isn't a moron...

That being said, besides the ridiculous 2 color screen housed in a plastic box, the X4 is a solid piece of hardware. That combined with the sometimes glitchy Livelink makes a pretty powerful tool. Hopefully the GTX will correct some of the deficiencies.

Anyone get DMRs to work yet? Lol.

 

[ajpturbo]

I think some of what makes SCT great also makes them out of touch a little bit...They are BIG....so I think sometimes the left hand doesn't know what the right is up to.

Ford is reusing some of the strategy catch codes...So I think that's why the dumb SCT guy fought with SHOLX about what his car was....They have told me before that my strategy was for an old ford ranger lol....But that's just going off the 4 digit code..When they get the entire strategy they should be able to tell what it is

And unfortunately I think the guys at SCT on the frontlines for retail customer support are not the greatest personnel SCT has to offer

 

[BOT_ROCKET]

That's the impression that I got when I called about getting support for the FuSpo. The guy was 100% convinced that the car was supported and that I had a defective device. After 5 minutes of banter, I kicked it into his head that I have a brand new model of a car that has never been tuned by anybody anywhere, including them. He started mumbling with the phone mic covered with somebody and came back to tell me that my car isn't supported yet.... "Yes, I know that. That's why I'm calling." He told me they are working on it.

I think I'll just let AJP be my SCT rep from now on since he seems to know just as much about what's going on as anyone that actually works there.

Soontm

 

[sholxgt]

I think some of what makes SCT great also makes them out of touch a little bit...They are BIG....so I think sometimes the left hand doesn't know what the right is up to.

Ford is reusing some of the strategy catch codes...So I think that's why the dumb SCT guy fought with SHOLX about what his car was....They have told me before that my strategy was for an old ford ranger lol....But that's just going off the 4 digit code..When they get the entire strategy they should be able to tell what it is

And unfortunately I think the guys at SCT on the frontlines for retail customer support are not the greatest personnel SCT has to offer

I agree completely. I do want to clarify though. The fight was regarding my 2013 MKS. He repeatedly said they do not support the Lincoln MKS.  The fact that it's an SHO with a different badge did not matter to him.

After about 30 minutes of trying to hang up on me, he went to a supervisor who told him that my car is supported.

I have had two vehicles with DiabloSport programmers. Very different experience, but maybe I was just lucky.

Wish our platform was popular enough to attract Cobb. I like their device.

For anyone reading, I wouldn't take my experience as a reason to not use SCT. The tuners are what matters and we have great ones that use SCT.

 

[Vortech347]

In a former A-hole strategy I had, the tuning process was yielding very different results between Drive and Sport.  Including transmission settings and boost profiles.

However they have now been addressed and all is well after having the dealer do a reflash to change my strategy.

Anything else change?..how was it reccomemded to you to change the strategy? ;D ;D

This guy right here.... 

 

[ajpturbo]

Vortech had a strategy that was jacked up, it is unclear to me whether it was a bad strategy from Ford or if SCT had screwed it up. Something was making the desired TIP(boost) dive bomb at high RPM...Very strange it was.

The way I understand it is SCT has access to Ford data base of strategies and calibrations...When a new strategy is requested they pull the stock file from the database and migrate it into the software.

It's supposed to be an untouched Ford calibration....So it could've been messed up from Ford or maybe something got corrupt during the migration to the SCT software or maybe a tech that does the transfer at SCT could've introduced something causing the weirdness.

When SCT makes a strategy available it's loaded to the servers and SCT dealers like myself run an update on our personal software package and then I have access to the stock strategy to make changes to.