MDesign vs. Windstorm
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I could help clarify some of the misconceptions.
As Anthony said awhile, while back Livernois received a customer who had our first generation intake system (smaller filter, different filter design, no heat shielding) which they used to test against their intake on their dyno and then reported back that our intake lost horsepower.
From another unbiased, third-party testing done by a member of this forum who is located in a different state than us and used a dyno shop that we are disconnected from, we had seen gains going from an AirRaid/Windstorm to an MDesign first generation intake in horsepower and torque. These are our unbiased facts.
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,4034.0.html
Both of the testing above were done with our first generation intake systems, we have also had our first generation intake system tested at the track which fell within .01 second of the Windstorm and the OEM intake systems in the 1/4 mile.
For quite some time we have been receiving Livernois customers who have been told that our intake is inferior to the Windstorm/AirRaid though it is never mentioned that they are comparing to our first generation, discontinued model and we are on our fourth generation. It is also not mentioned that the Windstorm/AirRaid only won over the MDesign intake system on the Livernois dyno, in their own shop, while we have unbiased third-party data. This is why we only post data that we receive from clients who perform these dyno testing at unbiased and disconnected interest shops across the nation.
As Anthony said awhile, while back Livernois received a customer who had our first generation intake system (smaller filter, different filter design, no heat shielding) which they used to test against their intake on their dyno and then reported back that our intake lost horsepower.
From another unbiased, third-party testing done by a member of this forum who is located in a different state than us and used a dyno shop that we are disconnected from, we had seen gains going from an AirRaid/Windstorm to an MDesign first generation intake in horsepower and torque. These are our unbiased facts.
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,4034.0.html
Both of the testing above were done with our first generation intake systems, we have also had our first generation intake system tested at the track which fell within .01 second of the Windstorm and the OEM intake systems in the 1/4 mile.
For quite some time we have been receiving Livernois customers who have been told that our intake is inferior to the Windstorm/AirRaid though it is never mentioned that they are comparing to our first generation, discontinued model and we are on our fourth generation. It is also not mentioned that the Windstorm/AirRaid only won over the MDesign intake system on the Livernois dyno, in their own shop, while we have unbiased third-party data. This is why we only post data that we receive from clients who perform these dyno testing at unbiased and disconnected interest shops across the nation.
CroR1 said:
The OEM intake filter element is significantly smaller than most aftermarket intake systems, also smaller in volume than our own filter. An oversized filter is not always best for power especially when prone to heat soak, this is why the OEM system is efficient with the flat panel filter.
Our system is a direct ram-air design also therefore the engine in fact breathes easier, especially in real world moving conditions verses on a dyno.
ElvenSho said:
Hey ElvenSho, follow this link below!
http://www.mdesignperformance.com/shop/2010-fordlincoln-35l-ecoboost-sho-flex-mks-mkt-explorer-sport-mdesign-performance-carbon-cold-air-intake
metroplex said:
I didn't think the air raid needed any improvement...I had the air raid and the original shorter weather stripping and had a perfect impression of the seal on the underhood lining. So in my mind it was drawing air from the same source as the stock airbox which was outside.