MKT AWD PTU Serviced

akakooper

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I want to start by saying that everyone's posts about the PTU fluid change has been beyond helpful!  I have a 2011 Lincoln MKT AWD.  I took it in a couple weeks ago to the dealer to get the PTU and rear diff serviced.  They seemed to not have an issue with what I was asking until I picked up the car.  The service manager said the PTU is not a "serviceable part".  WTF?  He continued to say that it is a lifetime fluid and can only be replaced if a "contamination" has occurred.  I asked the obvious question about how would I know if the PTU fluid is contaminated unless you drained it.  He did not have much to say.  They changed the rear diff and sent me on my way.  I have been having the smell others have talked about when stopped - that burning almost propane like smell coming from the vents when not on recirculate.  I also notice a small sludge spot in my garage recently after a drive to the mountains. 

I ended up finding a transmission shop who had some clue as to what needed to be done.  I dropped it off yesterday.  They called me a couple hours later and said the PTU is full of sludge and had metal shavings on the plug.  Thanks to everyone on here, I expected this.  They sucked out about 10oz of the sludge and refilled with redline oil.  He also noted that the relief valve had clearly puked out fluid.  He cleaned it up.  After driving a bit yesterday, the smell is gone!!!!!  My MKT seems smoother and coast so much better.  I will pay attention to the mpg and see if I notice a change.  I will take it back and repeat the service in a few thousand miles.   
 
Welcome to EBPF, kooper, glad the issue with the PTU got caught & fixed early.  It is normal to have a few metal shavings on the plug, I believe it is magnetic.  Expected better from a Lincoln dealership, but ya never know.  Looking forward to progress reports :)

Please do post an intro thread here when you get a chance, and post some pics of your MKT and other rides:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html
 
So glad you got it under control BEFORE it was too late. Still baffles me that Ford can get away with this though... just wait till these PTUs grenade.... SMH
 
Glad you got this addressed.

My local tranny shop handles maintainance for the Police Taurus & Explorer fleet and they do tranny fluid & PTU fluid changes every 15-20k and suggest every 30k for regular owners
 
66 Galaxie said:
Glad you got this addressed.

My local tranny shop handles maintainance for the Police Taurus & Explorer fleet and they do tranny fluid & PTU fluid changes every 15-20k and suggest every 30k for regular owners

I wish I could find a place like that.
 
I believe there is a TSB that says if you have that odor the dealer is to replace the PTU.  If you still have a powertrain warranty that would cover it.
 
SSM 45053 - 2007-2015 Various Vehicles Equipped With All Wheel Drive - Propane, Or Natural Gas Odor During Idle Or Low Speed Driving
Some 2013-2015 MKZ vehicles equipped with a 3.7L, 2007-2014 Edge, 2007-2015 MKX, 2011-2015 Explorer, 2009-2015 Flex, 2010-2015 MKT, 2008-2015 Taurus, 2008-2009Taurus X, 2009-2015 MKS, 2007-2012 Fusion/MKZ, and 2007-2011 Milan vehicles equipped with a PTU may exhibit a propane, or natural gas odor from the HVAC systemafter driving the vehicle for 20-45 minutes. This odor, if present, is most noticeable while idling or during low speed driving. Inspect the PTU for fluid leaks and repair any leaks per Workshop Manual Section 308-07B. If odor is still present after the leak repair and cleaning, replace the PTU and vent hose, if equipped. For vehicles with no leaks and odor present, replace the PTU along with thePTU vent hose, if equipped. Refer to Section 7 of the SLTS manual for the appropriate labor operations.

APPLICABLE VEHICLES
2013 - 2015 CAR: C9 MKZ (CD533)
2007 - 2014 TRUCK: Q1 FORD EDGE/LINCOLN MKX
2011 - 2015 TRUCK: UB EXPLORER
2009 - 2015 TRUCK: P3 FLEX (FORD C/O UTILITY)
2010 - 2015 TRUCK: P4 MKT (LINCOLN C/O UTILITY)
2013 - 2015 CAR: PH TAURUS
2008 - 2009 TRUCK: P5 TAURUS X (D219) 2008 & BEYOND
2013 - 2015 CAR: LE LINCOLN MKS-SWB/LWB
2007 - 2012 CAR: DE FUSION/MILAN/MKZ (ZEPHYR)
2007 - 2012 CAR: DE FUSION/MILAN/MKZ (ZEPHYR)
2007 - 2011 CAR: DE FUSION/MILAN/MKZ (ZEPHYR)
2013 - 2015 CAR: 00179 MKZ
2007 - 2014 TRUCK: 00176 EDGE
2011 - 2014 TRUCK: 00176 EDGE
2007 - 2015 TRUCK: 00177 MKX
2011 - 2015 TRUCK: 00134 EXPLORER 4DR
2013 - 2015 TRUCK: 00134 EXPLORER 4DR
2013 - 2015 TRUCK: 00134 EXPLORER 4DR
2009 - 2015 TRUCK: 00189 FLEX
2010 - 2015 TRUCK: 00194 MKT
2008 - 2015 CAR: 00117 TAURUS
2008 - 2009 TRUCK: 00185 TAURUS X
2009 - 2015 CAR: 00190 MKS
2007 - 2012 CAR: 00170 FUSION
2007 - 2012 CAR: 00179 MKZ
2007 - 2011 CAR: 00171 MILAN
 
jmr061 said:
I believe there is a TSB that says if you have that odor the dealer is to replace the PTU.  If you still have a powertrain warranty that would cover it.

not under warranty.  I noticed a very faint smell today then it was gone. 
 
Welcome aboard the E.B.P.F Kooper,great to hear you changed your fluids on such key components for a peace of mind,personally would also have the trans fluid flushed and coolant if not done so already,had mine changed roughly at 30k at the dealer which they flushed out twice with the exception of the coolant.  Z
 
ZSHO said:
Welcome aboard the E.B.P.F Kooper,great to hear you changed your fluids on such key components for a peace of mind,personally would also have the trans fluid flushed and coolant if not done so already,had mine changed roughly at 30k at the dealer which they flushed out twice with the exception of the coolant.  Z

doing that in a week or so.  Gotta stay up on the fluids for sure
 
akakooper said:
jmr061 said:
I believe there is a TSB that says if you have that odor the dealer is to replace the PTU.  If you still have a powertrain warranty that would cover it.

not under warranty.  I noticed a very faint smell today then it was gone.
Anytime you have your fluids changed it is quite normal to have a strong odor present for roughly 24hrs.  Z
 
It's really no big deal to change your ptu or rdu fluid.  Very simple job that any DIYer can do.  It actually takes longer to put the car on jack stands than the actual draining and filling of the fluids.  I've done the ptu twice on my mks so far and the last time it took me 15 minutes once the car was up in the air.  The rdu takes about 10 minutes to do and most of that is pumping the new oil in the differential. 
 
pmezo33 said:
It's really no big deal to change your ptu or rdu fluid.  Very simple job that any DIYer can do.  It actually takes longer to put the car on jack stands than the actual draining and filling of the fluids.  I've done the ptu twice on my mks so far and the last time it took me 15 minutes once the car was up in the air.  The rdu takes about 10 minutes to do and most of that is pumping the new oil in the differential.
Is there a how to somewhere I could look at?

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JeffsSport said:
pmezo33 said:
It's really no big deal to change your ptu or rdu fluid.  Very simple job that any DIYer can do.  It actually takes longer to put the car on jack stands than the actual draining and filling of the fluids.  I've done the ptu twice on my mks so far and the last time it took me 15 minutes once the car was up in the air.  The rdu takes about 10 minutes to do and most of that is pumping the new oil in the differential.
Is there a how to somewhere I could look at?

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PTU.  I think i remember reading that the procedure is slightly different with PP sho's and that you may have to drop the down pipe, but not 100% sure on that.  You'll need someone else to confirm that though.

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,3360.0/topicseen.html

RDU

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,1708.msg21702.html#msg21702
 
pmezo33 said:
JeffsSport said:
pmezo33 said:
It's really no big deal to change your ptu or rdu fluid.  Very simple job that any DIYer can do.  It actually takes longer to put the car on jack stands than the actual draining and filling of the fluids.  I've done the ptu twice on my mks so far and the last time it took me 15 minutes once the car was up in the air.  The rdu takes about 10 minutes to do and most of that is pumping the new oil in the differential.
Is there a how to somewhere I could look at?

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PTU.  I think i remember reading that the procedure is slightly different with PP sho's and that you may have to drop the down pipe, but not 100% sure on that.  You'll need someone else to confirm that though.

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,3360.0/topicseen.html

RDU

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,1708.msg21702.html#msg21702
Pmezo is correct,you will actually have to remove the passenger side DP in order to gain full access to the plug/sensor on the PP SHO.  Z
 
ZSHO said:
pmezo33 said:
JeffsSport said:
pmezo33 said:
It's really no big deal to change your ptu or rdu fluid.  Very simple job that any DIYer can do.  It actually takes longer to put the car on jack stands than the actual draining and filling of the fluids.  I've done the ptu twice on my mks so far and the last time it took me 15 minutes once the car was up in the air.  The rdu takes about 10 minutes to do and most of that is pumping the new oil in the differential.
Is there a how to somewhere I could look at?

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PTU.  I think i remember reading that the procedure is slightly different with PP sho's and that you may have to drop the down pipe, but not 100% sure on that.  You'll need someone else to confirm that though.

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,3360.0/topicseen.html

RDU

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,1708.msg21702.html#msg21702
Pmezo is correct,you will actually have to remove the passenger side DP in order to gain full access to the plug/sensor on the PP SHO.  Z
What's the difference on the PP or non PP SHO that makes the ptu oil change different?

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JeffsSport said:
What's the difference on the PP or non PP SHO that makes the ptu oil change different?

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That you need to drop the downpipe to gain access to the plug.  You don't need to do that with the non pp cars.
 
pmezo33 said:
JeffsSport said:
What's the difference on the PP or non PP SHO that makes the ptu oil change different?

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That you need to drop the downpipe.  You don't need to do that with the non pp cars.
I understand that but why is that

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JeffsSport said:
pmezo33 said:
JeffsSport said:
What's the difference on the PP or non PP SHO that makes the ptu oil change different?

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That you need to drop the downpipe.  You don't need to do that with the non pp cars.
I understand that but why is that

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Probably just the way the car was designed.  I've never done it on a PP car, but I'm guessing you can't get to the ptu fill plug without removing the downpipe. 
 
pmezo33 said:
JeffsSport said:
pmezo33 said:
JeffsSport said:
What's the difference on the PP or non PP SHO that makes the ptu oil change different?

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That you need to drop the downpipe.  You don't need to do that with the non pp cars.
I understand that but why is that

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Probably just the way the car was designed.  I've never done it on a PP car, but I'm guessing you can't get to the ptu fill plug without removing the downpipe.
Ok got ya..

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