New Ecoboost Owner, general acceleration questions.

Cool thanks guys, I'm sure I'll come back and have more questions when I make the purchase. Gonna be buying corsa cb, DP's, 3bar, and a tuner. Should get me started off pretty good. I've owned several turbo cars before to include a TT 3kgt VR4 and each one I've had plans to ug but never did. This is my chance now I love this car


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USMCSHO341 said:
Just gotta figure out what to tell the wife. 😎


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That's the rub for sure... A tune is a 10 min boltless mod worth 50-70 AWHP... You can save $100's by going with a used tuner, I did.
 
USMCSHO341 said:
what is the strategy code and where do I get it when looking to get a tune?


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As was mentioned by another member, you use the tuning device to retrieve the strategy code.  We then would keep that on file for you and recommend to check the code again anytime you go in for service to ensure we match the stock strategy when we load the stock tune and custom tunes to your device.  This is also a plus that we load a stock tune to our Mycal tuning device, whereas most all of the other devices rely on backing up a copy of your cars current tune as stock.  If their device is ever interrupted during its backup of your factory tune, the file can become corrupt and the ECU can become locked or worst case unrecoverable.  With our method of pre loading the OEM factory file 100% to our mycal we have never had a single unrecoverable ECU.  We have seen / heard of failures with most all other tuning devices on the market at one point or another that do not get loaded with a stock file.

The mycal also has enough logic that if it were ever accidentally unplugged or the car lost power during a flash it has a fail safe feature.  When the tuner is powered up after a failed attempt, it will tell you the tuning session was interrupted and it is now returning to stock.  Typically if this happens with another device the car will not start and the tuner will give an error because it only sees a partial file loaded to the vehicle.  We have made tuning fool proof with the mycal which is a nice benefit to have when tuning a $40-50,000+ vehicle especially.

Feel free to give us a shout if there is anything we can do to help.  I can also check to see what type of sales promotions are available for you if interested.  My name is Anthony @ 313-561-5500 ext 103
 
USMCSHO341 said:
Thanks Ant. I'll be in contact with you guys pretty soon.


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Not a problem, always glad to help!  Sounds great and look forward to helping unlock that hidden ecoboost potential these vehicles all have.
 
I was unaware that the mycal didn't back up the stock tune. That's actually quite scary as there is a difference between the exact calibration that was loaded to the car originally and a stock equivalent mass produced stategy.  And in the unlikely and very rare event that an ECU needs recovering it can be done after hours and late weekends by other companies which is rare to find.

Your line of thinking isn't innovative. If you would like to know why other tuning companies back up the stock calibration you should ask them, although they wouldn't be interested in telling you anyway, but until then you should just accept that it's just different practice in business and is silly to try and point it out as a negative thing.
 
ajpturbo said:
I was unaware that the mycal didn't back up the stock tune. That's actually quite scary as there is a difference between the exact calibration that was loaded to the car originally and a stock equivalent mass produced stategy.  And in the unlikely and very rare event that an ECU needs recovering it can be done after hours and late weekends by other companies which is rare to find.

Your line of thinking isn't innovative. If you would like to know why other tuning companies back up the stock calibration you should ask them, although they wouldn't be interested in telling you anyway, but until then you should just accept that it's just different practice in business and is silly to try and point it out as a negative thing.
Aj...All good points except one... When Ford reflashes my ECU....which they have done twice since 9/13... It is a mass update, all the same for the characteristics associated with the VIN, and not a tune for an individual car.... The point about always being able to get an appropriate and current stock tune is valid... But I'll acknowledge that I have never heard of a problem with just backing up personally in the EBs.
 
BigMac, I hear ya. And yes the strategy tunes are pumped out for the masses and for a given strategy they are all the same.

I can't give you a technical explanation on why some of the other tuning companies do it but I bet they have a decent one.

To name a few that I have used I can tell you quite a few do it that way. SCT does, cobb tuning, Hondata and Uprev for my Nissan.
 
Are you guys saying that if a tuner such as SCT jams in the middle of an upload, or breaks down with a stock tune on it, that a licensed sct tuner would not be able to reload a stock generic tune with a new sct tuner?
 
cror1 said:
Are you guys saying that if a tuner such as SCT jams in the middle of an upload, or breaks down with a stock tune on it, that a licensed sct tuner would not be able to reload a stock generic tune with a new sct tuner?

SCT would most likely be able to recover the tune file and recover the ECU

I've never tried to disconnect during a reflash but I'd be willing to bet that R & D at SCT tested against worst case scenario. They have to look out for business right?
 
As soon as I pulled the stock tune from the ecu I backed it up on my pc through the sct software. Then backed up the back up.
 
glock-coma said:
As soon as I pulled the stock tune from the ecu I backed it up on my pc through the sct software. Then backed up the back up.

So is your bug out area secure for when the terrorists attack you lol? You have enough food and water and beer?
 
ajpturbo said:
glock-coma said:
As soon as I pulled the stock tune from the ecu I backed it up on my pc through the sct software. Then backed up the back up.

So is your bug out area secure for when the terrorists attack you lol? You have enough food and water and beer?

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
You know how it goes......
 
glock-coma said:
ajpturbo said:
glock-coma said:
As soon as I pulled the stock tune from the ecu I backed it up on my pc through the sct software. Then backed up the back up.

So is your bug out area secure for when the terrorists attack you lol? You have enough food and water and beer?

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
You know how it goes......

LOL just messing with you...I have a box with SD cards and usb thumb drives with all my tunes for all my cars lol and I email my tunes to myself incase of computer crashes lol
 
ajpturbo said:
glock-coma said:
ajpturbo said:
glock-coma said:
As soon as I pulled the stock tune from the ecu I backed it up on my pc through the sct software. Then backed up the back up.

So is your bug out area secure for when the terrorists attack you lol? You have enough food and water and beer?

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
You know how it goes......

LOL just messing with you...I have a box with SD cards and usb thumb drives with all my tunes for all my cars lol and I email my tunes to myself incase of computer crashes lol
Do you keep the cards and drives stashed with your back up food, water, and beer?

Don't forget you're gonna need back up diapers now...
 
ajpturbo said:
I was unaware that the mycal didn't back up the stock tune. That's actually quite scary as there is a difference between the exact calibration that was loaded to the car originally and a stock equivalent mass produced stategy.  And in the unlikely and very rare event that an ECU needs recovering it can be done after hours and late weekends by other companies which is rare to find.

Your line of thinking isn't innovative. If you would like to know why other tuning companies back up the stock calibration you should ask them, although they wouldn't be interested in telling you anyway, but until then you should just accept that it's just different practice in business and is silly to try and point it out as a negative thing.

Unfortunately, your post shows you don't actually know how Ford coding and tuning works at it's base foundation. We will definitely attempt to clear up why we do what we do and why it is an advantage over "saving" the stock calibration.

Part of our process is that we have the customer send us both the strategy and the software part ID codes which identify exactly which files are currently in the vehicle.  Our tuner has enough logic that it will not load to the vehicle if the tune is not an identical match to what it sees in the vehicle and also if all tunes present do not match the OEM base file we load on the device.  Our tune is then an identical duplicate of what the customer has in the car for a base file, no doubt about that. This also give us the power to forward date the customer to a newer strategy code if he does not have the current one, granting them access to all of the OEM improvements as well as our custom tuning. 

And to shed light on another situation here, yes we have seen customers with other brands of tuning devices that were unrecoverable (this happens much more often than you are alluding to).  A customer of ours about 2-3 weeks ago bought a mycal and wanted to ditch his older, different brand device to make the step up to our stage 4 plus X tune like Rich is running.  His device locked up on him loading back to stock and failed.  The car was towed to the dealer and they told him he needed a new processor.  I got him in touch with the tech support at the company who manufactured his other brand device and had him send his processor to them.  They also told him the processor was unrecoverable, necessitating that the processor be replaced.  So yes we have dealt with multiple customers that had other brands of tuning devices with failed processors that had to be replaced.  We have had a zero percent failure rate using the mycal devices which is hard to do in this industry, but obviously possible. There has even been times where other brands of devices have locked up the ECM, but not failed it entirely, and our MyCalibrator device was used to recover it.

Now, getting to the base fundamentals of Ford tuning. If a car in New mexico has the same strategy and software ID code as a car in Utah, then why waste the time saving the same base tune over and over and over again? instead, our device has the OEM file stored on it, and flashed the exact way you would do a flash at a dealer level. So saying that by us not saving the stock file is "bad" couldn't be more incorrect. we preload that same exact, or sometimes newer file directly to the device so streamline the process. I mean, who wants to wait for the tuner to download something that it already can be pre-loaded with?

This also has the unique advantage in that it gives you a true stock file. Maybe you bought a car that is used and already was tuned. Well, other devices read out the file and make changes to it to dump it back in, so sometimes changes from previously used devices can be "stacked" where our device prevents that possibly catastrophic situation.
 
Of course the dealer is going to say you need a new processor....I would never bother a dealer for a problem after a bad reflash...that type of problem is way over their heads.

The exact strategy is not the same as the exact file that was loaded to the car..the data could be the same.maybe I'm not explaining it well or you refuse to understand it......if I give u a can of Pepsi and u want another I give u another can...they are the same drink and formula but it wasn't the exact same can....not saying it will make an appreciable difference but they aren't the same..

It's too bad sct doesn't have the time to defend themselves on these forums...they could give good insight

Sct recovers ecu's all the time..I would've called them before a trip to the dealer
 
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