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Welcome! I moved from NorCal last summer to Houston. I was up close to Roseville in Yuba City/Marysville area.
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that will go away after 5 or so posts. It's just for security measures, and it's temporary.m3dragon said:
BiGMaC - already have my parts list made.
Only thing I still need to see is which tune is the best. I know about Diablo, 5 star and livernoismotorsports. Is there a thread here or SHO forums you know of that has done a comparison on them?
livernoismotorsports or Diablo are probably the two I am looking at.
Also I have not seen a intercooler upgrade for the sho? Is my google kung fu weak or is the design just good enough from factory?
Only thing I still need to see is which tune is the best. I know about Diablo, 5 star and livernoismotorsports. Is there a thread here or SHO forums you know of that has done a comparison on them?
livernoismotorsports or Diablo are probably the two I am looking at.
Also I have not seen a intercooler upgrade for the sho? Is my google kung fu weak or is the design just good enough from factory?
Welcome to the community, and congrats on your soon-to-be ride! You can thank the trolls & spammers for us having to put up our defenses 
A quick primer on the most popular performance mods:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,808.msg7294.html#msg7294
Tunerwise, BiGMaC's got ya covered. I would add LET (Leading Edge Tuning) as a third option if you wanted to look into that (contact is Erick). All assuming you are looking for power + longevity. Diablo is well worth staying away from for this platform.
Livernois aka LME aka LMS
A quick primer on the most popular performance mods:http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,808.msg7294.html#msg7294
Tunerwise, BiGMaC's got ya covered. I would add LET (Leading Edge Tuning) as a third option if you wanted to look into that (contact is Erick). All assuming you are looking for power + longevity. Diablo is well worth staying away from for this platform.
Livernois aka LME aka LMS
Current planned parts order once car gets here. Shipping from MI so have a week or 2.
Stainless Works TA10ECODPCAT
Stainless Works TA10ECOCB
H&R Sport Lowering Coil Springs
Livernois Motorsports Windstorm Cold Air Intake
engine Even-Flo hi performance thermostat
Unleashed Custom Tuning
TSW Nurburgring Gunmetal with Mirror Cut Face Wheel 20x8.5 (Not sure what bolt and offset are needed)
09-15 Taurus 3.5 SHO Ecoboost Dual Valve Catch Can CSS
Stainless Works TA10ECODPCAT
Stainless Works TA10ECOCB
H&R Sport Lowering Coil Springs
Livernois Motorsports Windstorm Cold Air Intake
engine Even-Flo hi performance thermostat
Unleashed Custom Tuning
TSW Nurburgring Gunmetal with Mirror Cut Face Wheel 20x8.5 (Not sure what bolt and offset are needed)
09-15 Taurus 3.5 SHO Ecoboost Dual Valve Catch Can CSS
Looks like a great start. I'd add a 3 bar MAP sensor to the list for sure. Sold by your your tuner or found online a bit cheaper, but a nice item to buy from your tuner...they are giving life of your vehicle support
From my looking around the interwebz, stainless works was the system I avoided. Some are happy, but I saw a few unhappy also. Livernois or PPE pipes would be my recommendation. I think Torrie (unleashed) has some too, pretty new and not many reviews at all.
Rich
From my looking around the interwebz, stainless works was the system I avoided. Some are happy, but I saw a few unhappy also. Livernois or PPE pipes would be my recommendation. I think Torrie (unleashed) has some too, pretty new and not many reviews at all.
Rich
Thanks for the info guys.
Funny as in Raptor world Stainless works is the top dog, why I looked at them. But new platform so new start. This is stainless work not the cheaper version we are talking about?
I will look at livernoismotorsports. Trying to avoid drone so will have catted section with resonator. Any reasons why people said they disliked SS?
Added 3 bar to list. I have seen them as was not sure if gimmick yet. Just started looking at things today.
Can anyone tell me is the intercooler on the cars that good or what? I checked for upgrades and nada.
Funny as in Raptor world Stainless works is the top dog, why I looked at them. But new platform so new start. This is stainless work not the cheaper version we are talking about?
I will look at livernoismotorsports. Trying to avoid drone so will have catted section with resonator. Any reasons why people said they disliked SS?
Added 3 bar to list. I have seen them as was not sure if gimmick yet. Just started looking at things today.
Can anyone tell me is the intercooler on the cars that good or what? I checked for upgrades and nada.
Only thing on SS that scared me...couple drone complaints.
2 bar reads a max of 14.7 psi accurately, you're going to be running into higher boost levels than that most likely. I started with a 2bar tune. 3bar felt smoother for some reason.
CAC (intercooler) seems to hold its own, of course it could be better. BPD'S 617 awhp build from Livernois uses it, and there's a couple other guys that have made custom large Front mount (fmic) ones. Zero2Sixty Motorsports actually has a system for sale. Only 2 sold, and 1 in use right now.
Rich
2 bar reads a max of 14.7 psi accurately, you're going to be running into higher boost levels than that most likely. I started with a 2bar tune. 3bar felt smoother for some reason.
CAC (intercooler) seems to hold its own, of course it could be better. BPD'S 617 awhp build from Livernois uses it, and there's a couple other guys that have made custom large Front mount (fmic) ones. Zero2Sixty Motorsports actually has a system for sale. Only 2 sold, and 1 in use right now.
Rich
Thanks Rich,
I looked at Zero2Sixty Motorsports and that is a horrible intercooler design. Hard edges do not make for happy flowing intercoolers from my experience. I wonder if I ping wagner to see if they would make one. They do them for Euro cars and are the best I have seen.
SS I saw some videos on where a guy had SS headers and Corsa and it droned bad. No really good independent videos I have seen on full SS yet.
I should mention it does have the "performance package". Modifying a car that is on a truck is so much fun LOL.
I looked at Zero2Sixty Motorsports and that is a horrible intercooler design. Hard edges do not make for happy flowing intercoolers from my experience. I wonder if I ping wagner to see if they would make one. They do them for Euro cars and are the best I have seen.
SS I saw some videos on where a guy had SS headers and Corsa and it droned bad. No really good independent videos I have seen on full SS yet.
I should mention it does have the "performance package". Modifying a car that is on a truck is so much fun LOL.
The SHO intercooler is pretty good. Your concern should lie more with keeping the PCV system, turbo piping, and intercooler free of pooled oil/crud coming from the PCV system. Check & tighten (not overtighten) clamps regularly. Feel around hose ends to make sure there are no splits. Drain the intercooler if you spot any buildup in there. That sort of stuff.
Livernois/PPE downpipes are 2.5" I.D., Unleashed's offering is 3" I.D., stock is 2.25" I.D., IIRC. Be prepared to soak the nuts/bolts thoroughly in Kroil or PB Blaster etc. prior to attempting removal, as they tend to rust into place. Maybe replace them with good stainless steel parts instead (ARP?). Double-gasket the flanges if needed, but use new gaskets. The 3" downpipes might be a tight fit, but they do fit.
If you want to take a crack at the PTU, a good time to do it is when you are swapping out the downpipes, easier with the 2013+ to do so esp if it has the "package".
Livernois/PPE downpipes are 2.5" I.D., Unleashed's offering is 3" I.D., stock is 2.25" I.D., IIRC. Be prepared to soak the nuts/bolts thoroughly in Kroil or PB Blaster etc. prior to attempting removal, as they tend to rust into place. Maybe replace them with good stainless steel parts instead (ARP?). Double-gasket the flanges if needed, but use new gaskets. The 3" downpipes might be a tight fit, but they do fit.
If you want to take a crack at the PTU, a good time to do it is when you are swapping out the downpipes, easier with the 2013+ to do so esp if it has the "package".
