New SHO owner with problems

I got about 20 miles out of it before the "Charging system" set off the warning light, then the power steering went out intermittently, the a/c stayed at one speed, lane keep stopped working,  shifted funky, ended up with an orange wrench light and in limp mode literally as i turned into the dealership. Somehow i knew an entire engine getting reinstalled trouble free the first time around was wishful thinking. Oh well. Now its an F150 until they get it fixed. I was in an Ecosport for the past 6 weeks.
 
I suppose the logical path is the alternator / battery. I didnt own the car long enough to really notice the battery date, i would assume with the extent of the repairs done some form of battery diagnostic would have been done. I suppose one fuse or connector missed and the car runs the battery dead and it stops. The car drove great until that charging system light came on. It gradually went down hill as i drove back to the dealer which to me sounds like battery drain from a improper charging system, where the "improper" part is will be interesting. Although now that i think of it when starting i noticed it took a few more "turns" when pushing the button to start
 
My15SHO said:
I suppose the logical path is the alternator / battery. I didnt own the car long enough to really notice the battery date, i would assume with the extent of the repairs done some form of battery diagnostic would have been done. I suppose one fuse or connector missed and the car runs the battery dead and it stops. The car drove great until that charging system light came on. It gradually went down hill as i drove back to the dealer which to me sounds like battery drain from a improper charging system, where the "improper" part is will be interesting. Although now that i think of it when starting i noticed it took a few more "turns" when pushing the button to start

These car eat batteries.  One day it will be fine, next day battery is donzo.
 
SM105K said:
My15SHO said:
I suppose the logical path is the alternator / battery. I didnt own the car long enough to really notice the battery date, i would assume with the extent of the repairs done some form of battery diagnostic would have been done. I suppose one fuse or connector missed and the car runs the battery dead and it stops. The car drove great until that charging system light came on. It gradually went down hill as i drove back to the dealer which to me sounds like battery drain from a improper charging system, where the "improper" part is will be interesting. Although now that i think of it when starting i noticed it took a few more "turns" when pushing the button to start



These car eat batteries.  One day it will be fine, next day battery is donzo.

My last one I noticed that the starter seemed a little slower than normal. Drove it for 45 minutes and was actually going to replace it before it died. Drove 30 minutes to stop at home to get tools to swap battery at the parts store, came out of the house and it would not turn over. Since batteries are cheap and being stranded is not, I will replace the battery from now on after it has seen two winters. 
 
ridered74 said:
SM105K said:
My15SHO said:
I suppose the logical path is the alternator / battery. I didnt own the car long enough to really notice the battery date, i would assume with the extent of the repairs done some form of battery diagnostic would have been done. I suppose one fuse or connector missed and the car runs the battery dead and it stops. The car drove great until that charging system light came on. It gradually went down hill as i drove back to the dealer which to me sounds like battery drain from a improper charging system, where the "improper" part is will be interesting. Although now that i think of it when starting i noticed it took a few more "turns" when pushing the button to start




These car eat batteries.  One day it will be fine, next day battery is donzo.

My last one I noticed that the starter seemed a little slower than normal. Drove it for 45 minutes and was actually going to replace it before it died. Drove 30 minutes to stop at home to get tools to swap battery at the parts store, came out of the house and it would not turn over. Since batteries are cheap and being stranded is not, I will replace the battery from now on after it has seen two winters.


Same as mine. At exactly 3 years from taking it off the showroom, it turned over slower than usual. Then the next start didn't happen.
 
jims2015 said:
ridered74 said:
SM105K said:
My15SHO said:
I suppose the logical path is the alternator / battery. I didnt own the car long enough to really notice the battery date, i would assume with the extent of the repairs done some form of battery diagnostic would have been done. I suppose one fuse or connector missed and the car runs the battery dead and it stops. The car drove great until that charging system light came on. It gradually went down hill as i drove back to the dealer which to me sounds like battery drain from a improper charging system, where the "improper" part is will be interesting. Although now that i think of it when starting i noticed it took a few more "turns" when pushing the button to start




These car eat batteries.  One day it will be fine, next day battery is donzo.

My last one I noticed that the starter seemed a little slower than normal. Drove it for 45 minutes and was actually going to replace it before it died. Drove 30 minutes to stop at home to get tools to swap battery at the parts store, came out of the house and it would not turn over. Since batteries are cheap and being stranded is not, I will replace the battery from now on after it has seen two winters.


Same as mine. At exactly 3 years from taking it off the showroom, it turned over slower than usual. Then the next start didn't happen.

on 3rd battery and each is just like this^^^^^ one or two days with slow starting and it heads south fast!
 
I get the battery going dead and preventing starting, but after its started and running, why would the battery cause the issues i had? Am i too old school in thinking it runs off the alternator once started? That power is run thru the battery but does a bad battery not allow that? I suppose after it sitting in a bay for 6 weeks and its all put back together the battery could take a dump quick.
 
My15SHO said:
I get the battery going dead and preventing starting, but after its started and running, why would the battery cause the issues i had? Am i too old school in thinking it runs off the alternator once started? That power is run thru the battery but does a bad battery not allow that? I suppose after it sitting in a bay for 6 weeks and its all put back together the battery could take a dump quick.

I chalk it up to one of the SHO mysteries.  My car completely freaked out when my battery started tanking.  The dash freaked out, my climate controls freaked out, my back up camera flipped upside down. 

I replaced the battery and all those issues went away.
 
I had to replace my battery after the first winter I started using a battery tender.  It never actually died but it was about to.  I took it out for a drive and put it back on the tender only the tender light stayed red for a couple days after which isn’t normal.  New battery stayed on a tender as soon as I would park it in the garage.  Now I upgraded to a lightweight battery and that stays on a tender as well.  Maybe buy a battery tender....keep it full at all times.


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My15SHO said:
I get the battery going dead and preventing starting, but after its started and running, why would the battery cause the issues i had? Am i too old school in thinking it runs off the alternator once started? That power is run thru the battery but does a bad battery not allow that? I suppose after it sitting in a bay for 6 weeks and its all put back together the battery could take a dump quick.


It does, but old school cars weren't as dependent on electronics as cars today are. If a bad battery causes voltage fluctuations it can effect pretty much every aspect of the car since almost everything is controlled by electronics in some way or another.
 
ridered74 said:
My15SHO said:
I get the battery going dead and preventing starting, but after its started and running, why would the battery cause the issues i had? Am i too old school in thinking it runs off the alternator once started? That power is run thru the battery but does a bad battery not allow that? I suppose after it sitting in a bay for 6 weeks and its all put back together the battery could take a dump quick.


It does, but old school cars weren't as dependent on electronics as cars today are. If a bad battery causes voltage fluctuations it can effect pretty much every aspect of the car since almost everything is controlled by electronics in some way or another.

100% correct with these cars when it comes to weak batteries.
 
Mine would not go into reverse ... Drove fine,  headlights would go bright and dark depending on the charging state.. but the weird moment was when it refused to go into reverse in a parking lot.  went into drive fine (but with a loud THUNK) ... but reverse ... nope.  swapped the batter right there in the Walmart parking lot and all fixed.
 
Got the car back yesterday, i suppose a car sitting for weeks in a shop can be the final death blow for a bad battery. Everything seems good, car drives strong. The final bill was a tad over $12k, alot of stuff included on the invoice. I did see the tranny fluid was replaced, i assume due to the block being replaced. What about the PTU? Would that have been serviced as well? I didnt get a whole lot of info when i picked the car up. I saw the front end was realigned, dont know alot about whats involved, what got replaced, what didnt? I feel like my maintence schedule is all thrown off.
 
The invoice is 5 pages, three of which are nothing but part #'s. Aside from the multiple bolts, nuts, gaskets....i see the new engine assembly, two filter assembly, 6qt engine oil, 12qt auto trans oil, 2 qt auto trans oil, 1 gallon distilled water?
 
Well, atleast i got to enjoy it for 2 days this time. Two puddles under the car in the garage. One is red ATF and the other engine oil.  I know its a big job but is it honestly too much to expect to have it done correctly, all bolts in place, no leaks.
 
.... that sounds like my dealership.  I gave up and found a warranty authorized mechanic instead and its been way better,  but in your case you will definitely need to go back and politely throw a stink.
 
I was told a transmission line wasnt tightened and leaking, they tightened it and topped it off. No more leaks overnight so i assume thats fixed.  I had the car back for two days and it throws a P0020 code on the way to work, which happens to be the same code that i brought it in for back on June 20th. 7 weeks.....three visits.....right back where we started.
 
Im gonna look into it myself, is "bank 2" the front or back cylinder head, also will the vct connector be on the left or right side. I found some answers on an F150 Forum but our engines are sideways compared to theirs
 
My15SHO said:
Im gonna look into it myself, is "bank 2" the front or back cylinder head, also will the vct connector be on the left or right side. I found some answers on an F150 Forum but our engines are sideways compared to theirs

This should help:

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=10453.msg157780#msg157780
 
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