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[Adam]

Keeping the drivetrain fluids fresh will help minimize losses.  The more the power the SHO develops, and the more you put it to the ground, the shorter the intervals should be.
That G8 was hauling it!  Did you do the work yourself, though, getting everything installed for $1,100 is a darned good package

That is good to know.  What fluids should I change more often outside of the oil itself?  And can it be done at home, or like everything else, is it so shoe horned into place its almost impossible to do yourself?

It was $1100 in parts, I did all the work myself on ole blue.  $1100 here gets you a Corsa exhaust and 3 HP gain.  That is what is killing me.  I am no stranger to engine build ups

 

[Adam]

How much boost are you seeing,are you monitoring any levels,any codes set?? I was curious who installed the methanol kit?  Z

I did the meth setup myself.  Took out the spare tire, put an inflation kit in its place with a can of fix a flat as well.  I am running a 50/50 mix right now as I don't have 1K on the ticker yet.  There is still some room, and I really think our cars could benefit from the DEI CryO2 injection system.  It will cool the engine off or you can put a sprayer on the front.  Have it spray and cool off parts of the engine, turbo setup.

 

[SHOdded]

$1100 here gets you a Corsa exhaust and 3 HP gain.  That is what is killing me.  I am no stranger to engine build ups

The usual route here to mid 12's is Tune + 3 bar + Tstat => That's about $850 or so all told.  Unless you have major changes in your setup, upgrades to the tune don't cost a penny.  That's not bad at all.

Then come downpipes, catback, meth injection to get you into the low 12's, maybe even break into the 11's on a good day.

Then turbo upgrade, engine upgrades, etc.  That's where the money really starts adding up.

 

[MJESHO]

Adam............what brand is your rear window roof spoiler?  And where did you get it?

Mark

 

[PokerMunkee]

Not many big AWD luxury sedans putting up 11 second time slips.  Tesla P85D stock is only one that comes to mind at moment that does it stock.  A few MB, BMW and Audis can get into the 11's with mods.  Jeep SRT8 can do it with a big V8 and mods.

I wish there were more AWD sedans that could do mid 12s or better off the showroom floor.

If you can get into the 11's for under $5K, that's not bad at all.

 

[Adam]

Adam............what brand is your rear window roof spoiler?  And where did you get it?

Mark

Actually an old friend.  I work with people all over the world.  Third Shift Speed Jaison in AUS, Redline Goods Maciek in Poland, this happens to come from AJ in Korea.  I was trying to hunt down his physical site for you, but can only find his eBay page called Happy-Buy It Now.  He is a nice guy to deal with and actually speaks English.  He does a flex primer and paint to an exact match.  He got the 1244mm exact length match up for it.  He is doing the nice rounded edge unlike other eBay sellers.  I will show a how to, then a before and after shot.  Its not for everyone.  But nothing is.

I mean I swapped out the big block letter chrome "Taurus" on the trunk with the 1997-1999 I believe style black cursive version that is only about 1/2 the length on the trunk.  Plus the black blend in look goes with my theme.  But I know I saw where people were saying they do not like the cursive script of the word.  Fits my taste over the large block lettering on back.

 

[Adam]

The usual route here to mid 12's is Tune + 3 bar + Tstat => That's about $850 or so all told.  Unless you have major changes in your setup, upgrades to the tune don't cost a penny.  That's not bad at all.

Then come downpipes, catback, meth injection to get you into the low 12's, maybe even break into the 11's on a good day.

Then turbo upgrade, engine upgrades, etc.  That's where the money really starts adding up.

What tune?  I have Livernois That was $600 should I have gone a different route?  Yeah, the fluff stuff is what is killer.  I understand the need for downpipes to spool quicker, but it kills me that it shows less than a 10hp gain from the VERY few who measure it.  Cold Air Intake which is like 9HP but not until nearly 6000 RPM, and a loss of power up to that point. Exhaust which is $1100 and a gain of 3-5HP.  Normally any other car that would be a combined conservative 35+HP and in this setup on a good day is about 15.  And those are an expensive trio.  Does anyone make a Cold air intake that actually draws cold air from additional duct work?

Not many big AWD luxury sedans putting up 11 second time slips.  Tesla P85D stock is only one that comes to mind at moment that does it stock.  A few MB, BMW and Audis can get into the 11's with mods.  Jeep SRT8 can do it with a big V8 and mods.

I wish there were more AWD sedans that could do mid 12s or better off the showroom floor.

If you can get into the 11's for under $5K, that's not bad at all.

Oh, I love the car.  I hope I am not coming across any other way. Had it for right at a month now and already about $5600 into it.  If I did not like it, I would not have bought it.  Came close to the new Chevy SS which was just the replacement to my G8.  This car is much more refined. and honestly the most bang for the buck in AWD sport sedans.

 

[PokerMunkee]

Maybe Dodge will put AWD into the Charger Hellcat!  We can dream, they yanked AWD out of the R/T 5.7 for 2015, bastards.

 

[ZSHO]

How much boost are you seeing,are you monitoring any levels,any codes set?? I was curious who installed the methanol kit?  Z

I did the meth setup myself.  Took out the spare tire, put an inflation kit in its place with a can of fix a flat as well.  I am running a 50/50 mix right now as I don't have 1K on the ticker yet.  There is still some room, and I really think our cars could benefit from the DEI CryO2 injection system.  It will cool the engine off or you can put a sprayer on the front.  Have it spray and cool off parts of the engine, turbo setup.

I mentioned this before but its crucial to monitor your boost,AFR,readings in order to have an inside perspective and to see whats actually happening,guys with an Alky usually run 100%meth and would make sure there are no leaks coming out of the line from the pump,BTW any hesitations of any kind?? personaly think you should check and troubleshoot for any issues and blaming your tuner should be your last resort,also on the above post think all your HP numbers are somewhat misconstrued and simply dont add up based on the mods you mentioned,think a (dyno) session is in order,especially in this situation,just my 2 cent.  Z

 

[Adam]

I mentioned this before but its crucial to monitor your boost,AFR,readings in order to have an inside perspective and to see whats actually happening,guys with an Alky usually run 100%meth and would make sure there are no leaks coming out of the line from the pump,BTW any hesitations of any kind?? personaly think you should check and troubleshoot for any issues and blaming your tuner should be your last resort,also on the above post think all your HP numbers are somewhat misconstrued and simply dont add up based on the mods you mentioned,think a (dyno) session is in order,especially in this situation,just my 2 cent.  Z

I am running a solid PSI that I am keeping under wraps at the moment.  Want to see what it will put down on a video run or two once I dial everything in.  Let me just say I have ARP bolts on the way to get a little more piece of mind.  Think I am 2 PSI away from where I want to be, but I have a feeling the trans will not keep up for thousands of miles to come.  I don't know that I ever blamed the tune at all.  Only asked if there was another I should have been using here.  I have no issues, hesitations, bogging out, choppy response... from the 50/50 mix.   

I was reading, watching YouTube videos, looking at posts and I feel that when people post negative gains on a CAI up to nearly 6000 RPMs, saying the seat of the pants spool up feel from a downpipe but fewer than 10HP gain for those who actually data log.  Exhaust, outside of sound and maybe a little weight offers almost nothing else.  Not to say that it does not offer a quicker 1320' because it does breath better.  But I am looking at horsepower numbers at the moment.  Then fine tuning, getting the right combo built up. etc.

My Corvette had 6 cold air systems before I found the right combo which was what really worked with my setup.  No stranger to buying the same part time and time again to make things right. Just asking if someone would suggest another tune to go with supporting mods.  Really not on to argue or fight with any members.  Since I am new to Ford, I thought this would be the place to go and check out how to make it right.

 

[SHOdded]

If you are wanting to do the LMS route properly, you will need to have the car at their shop, dyno'd, etc so they can dial it in for you.  That's their SOP, and it works.  One of the things they have emphasized time & time again is that PSI is not how they make the numbers/timeslips they do. 

If you want to be remote, datalog, and have the tune tweaked, then you will need an SCT tuning device and tuners like Unleashed or LET who have experience with the 3.5EB platform.  Not to diminish LET in any way, but I know Torrie @ Unleashed is very good with remote tuning, has worked on many platforms from the mundane to the exotic, and so I'd stick with him if you switch to the SCT side of the tracks.

Maybe you can work with ajpturbo to see what can be done.  He is in the process of self-tuning his SHO, and says he runs 22-24 psi (?) regularly no problems.

ARP head bolts are a great idea regardless.  PPE & LME downpipes are among the best units you will find out there, both use the Magnaflow hiflow cats (if going catted).  Unleashed offers a 3" downpipe setup that also works.  No dyno on that one tho I believe.

With bigger or upgraded turbos, shouldn't really have to turn up the PSI as much.  I believe we are looking at a practical street/DD limit of about 500 AWHP, and a strip-only limit of 600 AWHP.  There are rumors that 600 AWHP is streetable, but due to the extremely limited sample, hard to speak for longevity.

Just some thoughts.

 

[SHOdded]

I just noticed I said "LMS" when the correct abbreviation is "LME"   Apologies!

 

[Larrylu]

I just noticed I said "LMS" when the correct abbreviation is "LME"   Apologies!

Showing your age. I bought my tune in 2011 and I believe it was LMS back then. The association was made and I still struggle with LME.