So I got a tuner from Diablosport not knowing anything about tunes. It looked really cool with many options, I’m a tech so it had me. Put it on my 14 SHO with a CAI only. Well about a year later motor blew. I’m looking for a nice custom tune for everyday driver. I’m not trying to race or break records just add a little more umph and fun.
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bpd1151
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ZSHO said:
Curious Z, why is AJP considered to be "our in house tuner" ? ?
There are plenty of vendors here that offer great tune offerings respectively.
In no particular order, the one's that come to mind are:
Gearhead Tuning
AJPTurbo
Livernois Motorsports
Unleashed Tuning
BMR Tuning
Ortiz Tuning
Ummmm who else?
Other than the last two listed above, the top four of that list can also be reached via PM here.
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I have said this before but it applies here. How involved do YOU want to be in the tuning process? Do you want to obtain a base tune, datalog it, send info to the tuner, have the tune tweaked and sent back to you.....perhaps several times....or do you want a plug & play tune that requires no effort on your part? If you choose the datalogging/tweaking route, do you want the tuner to explain exactly what he is seeing and what he is doing or do you just want to accept what he does with little or no dialog?
LMS is basically plug & play....easy peasy and very effective. You would get a substantial power boost and a safe tune for daily driving or occasional drag strip use. AJPturbo will want to see datalogs and tweak the tune to your specific car. Along the way, he will explain what he sees in the logs, what he is doing and what to expect. It is not just an excellent tune but also a learning process for you. It will also be very potent and very safe for however your drive the car.
I have used both LMS and AJPturbo and highly recommend either one depending upon which process YOU prefer. I have no first hand experience with the others.
LMS is basically plug & play....easy peasy and very effective. You would get a substantial power boost and a safe tune for daily driving or occasional drag strip use. AJPturbo will want to see datalogs and tweak the tune to your specific car. Along the way, he will explain what he sees in the logs, what he is doing and what to expect. It is not just an excellent tune but also a learning process for you. It will also be very potent and very safe for however your drive the car.
I have used both LMS and AJPturbo and highly recommend either one depending upon which process YOU prefer. I have no first hand experience with the others.
bpd1151
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SHOdded said:
Ummm..... this community has watched the top four cited in my list, to each grow as well over the years (& they're each members here as well).
Although I can agree with you to some extent that the term "in house" is well within context, it can also be said that a staff member citing just one tuner out of many out there, and labeling that tuner with "in house" also implies preference or preference over all others.
My point to the OP is/was that there are MANY options out there and as Bruce touched upon, it's really personal choice and which rabbit hole one chooses to go down upon.
Staff should remain neutral. I recall that being a big sticking point here years ago. Just a polite reminder. No dig intended.
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bpd1151 said:
I see what you are saying. However, is Z being bias if his car is tuned by LMS...yet says AJP is the in house tuner? I praise Brad up and down and recommend him to everyone. However, I will say in the same breath that Matt at Gearhead is killing it. He is advancing the platform with parts and exceptional tunes.
After the V11 incident and lack of explanation from LMS, I wouldn't let them tune my lawnmower.
Maybe because of the posting I've done and random reviews I would do for people is where the house term came from I dunno. But yes there a handful of great tunes to use now. I don't have time it seems like to post as much for leisure like have in the past. But I do like to check the forum daily. It's like after responding to a bunch of emails daily from tuning logs or inquiries or general questions from people that are either tuned by me or wanting to be tuned by me or tuned by someone else my fingers get tired lol
But to the OP the diablosport doesn't seem to be a popular device and honestly I'm not sure which vendors even use them for custom tuning. But it's unlikely an generic canned tune would run aggressive enough to blow your motor but obviously that's hard to say without knowing how the tune was done.
That is always a problem for tuners and making sure people know that even stock tunes can blow motors. Which is why I hate magic numbers for power for a give motor...Then if you are below the accepted magic number then the obvious reason people would want to accept is the tune being the cause.
Although I love and recommend custom tuning it's not really necessary for this car for normal mods to achieve great results. Most people are perfectly satisfied with a single file if they don't want to be bothered with datalogging. Even for my tunes. I don't require logging to be done but still recommend it and it's included so I would take advantage of it even if only to get a narrative of your cars behavior with the tune and peace of mind.
But to the OP the diablosport doesn't seem to be a popular device and honestly I'm not sure which vendors even use them for custom tuning. But it's unlikely an generic canned tune would run aggressive enough to blow your motor but obviously that's hard to say without knowing how the tune was done.
That is always a problem for tuners and making sure people know that even stock tunes can blow motors. Which is why I hate magic numbers for power for a give motor...Then if you are below the accepted magic number then the obvious reason people would want to accept is the tune being the cause.
Although I love and recommend custom tuning it's not really necessary for this car for normal mods to achieve great results. Most people are perfectly satisfied with a single file if they don't want to be bothered with datalogging. Even for my tunes. I don't require logging to be done but still recommend it and it's included so I would take advantage of it even if only to get a narrative of your cars behavior with the tune and peace of mind.
FYI- I will not start off by quoting others and rather straight to the point!
I have always been Fair and impartial and try not to recommend a specific Tuner in mind while being judgmental with the Forums daily activities which probably explains the lessening in negative posts found in other Forum's.
As Manu kindly mentioned above I did NOT see AJPturbo mentioned on the voting Poll above and the very reason I suggested him plain and simple that's all!
To the OP Best of luck with your perspective Tuner of choice. Z
I have always been Fair and impartial and try not to recommend a specific Tuner in mind while being judgmental with the Forums daily activities which probably explains the lessening in negative posts found in other Forum's.
As Manu kindly mentioned above I did NOT see AJPturbo mentioned on the voting Poll above and the very reason I suggested him plain and simple that's all!
To the OP Best of luck with your perspective Tuner of choice. Z
GhostlyGrenade
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I'd also recommend AJPTurbo. I did a ton of research on the others and was considering Gearhead but decided to go with AJPTurbo after talking with him. Just having someone explain what they see and what changes they make is worth the price of admission. the fact that his tune not only makes great power but makes the shifting so much better as well makes the car much more enjoyable even in city driving. i have ran his 93tune and currently run his E30 tune with nothing but praise for his work.
I have also used Unleashed before and i give Torrie much respect. He is probably the fastest to respond at any hour almost. His tunes were great and got me hooked and wanting more, specifically with E30 blended tunes.
As far as Livernois, they seem knowledgeable and reputable but as soon as i saw the proprietary tuner i was out. they also seem sort of high priced on most of their items. it reminds me of mac/apple and well....anyhow pick one and enjoy
I have also used Unleashed before and i give Torrie much respect. He is probably the fastest to respond at any hour almost. His tunes were great and got me hooked and wanting more, specifically with E30 blended tunes.
As far as Livernois, they seem knowledgeable and reputable but as soon as i saw the proprietary tuner i was out. they also seem sort of high priced on most of their items. it reminds me of mac/apple and well....anyhow pick one and enjoy
have had LMS and for a plug and play not an issue! awesome way to get into the tuned market for those whom don't want to log. Now that's the problem once you get a taste of what is on tap for what these car's can do you soon understand the value of a good tuner! It's all about what you want. I said I would not put meth or log and Hummm well now... I'm way to far past.
I love AJP's tunes and having a guy with soo Much experience and soo many cars tuned.
LMS has treated me well so pick anything in the top 4 if you don't want to log lms is the way to get you started but I'm sure each and do the same with the option of more without being stuck to the lms progamer.
I love AJP's tunes and having a guy with soo Much experience and soo many cars tuned.
LMS has treated me well so pick anything in the top 4 if you don't want to log lms is the way to get you started but I'm sure each and do the same with the option of more without being stuck to the lms progamer.
Livernois Motorsports
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TopherSho said:Macgyver said:
Depends on the year .. 2010 has firmware 'quirks' and can be a pain for LMS to tune for.. I went with AJP/Brad because he explains everything step by step, and has good solid advise that i tend to expensively ignore..
He has been stellar ..
We tune a great deal of the 2010-12 models every month and are not having any issues with them being programmed. Not sure what quirks you've experienced but those cars with the 4X tune flat out rip. Rich's car for example was running 12.10-12.20 with just bolt ons and are 4X tune without ever going on the dyno.
TopherSho said:Macgyver said:
Depends on the year .. 2010 has firmware 'quirks' and can be a pain for LMS to tune for.. I went with AJP/Brad because he explains everything step by step, and has good solid advise that i tend to expensively ignore
He has been stellar ..
Quirks on 2010s? I have not heard of any complaints about Livernois on the 2010-2012 models. In fact, I think their reputation is excellent for those years. The tune I had on my 2010 MKS was fantastic.
I agree Brad is stellar if you want to datalog be a partner in the tuning process.