PPE Downpipes Rubbing hole in cover.

[polskifacet]

Hey guys,
PPE catted downpipe from the front turbo almost melted/rubbed a hole for itself in the cover under the engine. Does anyone else have this issue? I am thinking to get a piece of stainless sheet metal and rivet it to the plastic cover. Ill take pictures once done.

 

[4DRHTRD]

Have you emailed PPE and let them know? Paul can be very accommodating in scenarios like this, I can get in the middle but they are the manufacturer and control the warranty. Unfortunately with hand made pipes there will be times that tolerances are tighter than the jig expects, the down side is that you'll have to pay for a new pipe and then  ship the old pipe back then get refunded. The easiest thing is to just hammer clearance it, the 1/4" of clearance you require will not impact performance in the least bit and it's the easiest scenario.
If you want to do the swap email me and sales@ppeengineering.com so we can start that process.
Mike

 

[KonaTheWhale]

My front pipe hung a little low for the shield so I just notched out the shield where the pipe would rub against it. Haven't had any issues and was the easiest route in my opinion.

 

[polskifacet]

Have you emailed PPE and let them know? Paul can be very accommodating in scenarios like this, I can get in the middle but they are the manufacturer and control the warranty. Unfortunately with hand made pipes there will be times that tolerances are tighter than the jig expects, the down side is that you'll have to pay for a new pipe and then get ship the old pipe back. The easiest thing is to just hammer clearance it, the 1/4" of clearance you require will not impact performance in the least bit and it's the easiest scenario.
If you want to do the swap email me and sales@ppeengineering.com so we can start that process.
Mike

lol seems a bit drastic, the pipe is more important IMO than the cover. I think ill just put a piece of aluminum where the pipe is touching and rivet it in with backer washers and call it a day. My stock pipe was only like 1/4 inch from the cover as well.

 

[Heelfan1]

I know its not turbo downpipes but found this interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azPKIjxmmdU

I would have never thought this would have been the case.

 

[polskifacet]

Pipes are too beautiful lol would hurt my soul to bang on them with a hammer.

 

[ZSHO]

Pipes are too beautiful lol would hurt my soul to bang on them with a hammer.

I would try using a rubber mallet. Z

 

[derfdog15]

Pipes are too beautiful lol would hurt my soul to bang on them with a hammer.

I'd remove the undertray before I beat up my downpipes

That said, My car drove ~2k miles without an undertray with no adverse affects, due to my original one cracking down the middle because of ice/snow (it got caught and ripped).

I think your metal shielding idea should work pretty well.

The other option, depending if you have the clearance/adjust-ability would be to shift the part that is hitting slightly, but idk if you can do it easily or if it would require some custom fab/welding.

 

[MiWiAu]

I'd remove the undertray before I beat up my downpipes

That said, My car drove ~2k miles without an undertray with no adverse affects, due to my original one cracking down the middle because of ice/snow (it got caught and ripped).

Doesn't the SHO belly pan have cooling vents cut into the bottom to direct airflow? I saw an image of one once, and I thought I recall seeing some air scoops, so to speak. If so, I'd be cautious about running long term without one. If it weren't beneficial to cooling, I guarantee Ford would remove that part from the assembly to save cost. Just my  $0.02, FWIW.

The XSport doesn't have a belly pan, but there is a duct to direct air to the PTU area, which I'm adamant about keeping in place.


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[FoMoCoSHO]

I'd remove the undertray before I beat up my downpipes

That said, My car drove ~2k miles without an undertray with no adverse affects, due to my original one cracking down the middle because of ice/snow (it got caught and ripped).

Doesn't the SHO belly pan have cooling vents cut into the bottom to direct airflow? I saw an image of one once, and I thought I recall seeing some air scoops, so to speak. If so, I'd be cautious about running long term without one. If it weren't beneficial to cooling, I guarantee Ford would remove that part from the assembly to save cost. Just my  $0.02, FWIW.

The XSport doesn't have a belly pan, but there is a duct to direct air to the PTU area, which I'm adamant about keeping in place.


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I'm not sure about that but IIRC some members have noted that their vehicles become less stable at high speeds without it.

 

[MiWiAu]

I'd remove the undertray before I beat up my downpipes

That said, My car drove ~2k miles without an undertray with no adverse affects, due to my original one cracking down the middle because of ice/snow (it got caught and ripped).

Doesn't the SHO belly pan have cooling vents cut into the bottom to direct airflow? I saw an image of one once, and I thought I recall seeing some air scoops, so to speak. If so, I'd be cautious about running long term without one. If it weren't beneficial to cooling, I guarantee Ford would remove that part from the assembly to save cost. Just my  $0.02, FWIW.

The XSport doesn't have a belly pan, but there is a duct to direct air to the PTU area, which I'm adamant about keeping in place.


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I'm not sure about that but IIRC some members have noted that their vehicles become less stable at high speeds without it.

Hmm, I could buy that, too. Guess what I'm saying is that I don't think it's on there just for fun.


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[StealBlueSHO]

I'd remove the undertray before I beat up my downpipes

That said, My car drove ~2k miles without an undertray with no adverse affects, due to my original one cracking down the middle because of ice/snow (it got caught and ripped).

Doesn't the SHO belly pan have cooling vents cut into the bottom to direct airflow? I saw an image of one once, and I thought I recall seeing some air scoops, so to speak. If so, I'd be cautious about running long term without one. If it weren't beneficial to cooling, I guarantee Ford would remove that part from the assembly to save cost. Just my  $0.02, FWIW.

The XSport doesn't have a belly pan, but there is a duct to direct air to the PTU area, which I'm adamant about keeping in place.


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I'm not sure about that but IIRC some members have noted that their vehicles become less stable at high speeds without it.

Hmm, I could buy that, too. Guess what I'm saying is that I don't think it's on there just for fun.


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Funny... I thought ford put them there to hide all the oil leaks from the turbos...


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[ZSHO]

I would say the under cover(belly pan)is ideal for airflow and aerodynamics along with its built heat shield barrier plays a significant role AFAIK. Z
Here's a good discussion on fitment issues.  Z
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,6095.msg95298.html#msg95298

 

[polskifacet]

Got around to fixing the cover under the engine.

 

[SHOdded]

Nice job!  If there's metal on there tho, maybe coat with some sort of Plastidip or something to retain thermal properties?

 

[polskifacet]

Nice job!  If there's metal on there tho, maybe coat with some sort of Plastidip or something to retain thermal properties?

What do you mean? I put thermal mat on the inside which reflects radiant heat upto 2000f, the only reason i put the mat there was because i was worried about protecting the surrounding plastic from the heat of the down pipe.

Note: I also used rivet washers so its not only fastened to the plastic as that may widen over time.

 

[SHOdded]

Gotcha.  I saw the thermal mat in the first pic, the second pic looked like a metal piece to me hence my comment

 

[irondoor19]

How about Heat Wrap the Pipes... We Did... and the Belly Pan
is required at high Speed.. Hood shake at the Back is Wicked @ 90 and above
Almost Scary.. so keep it on for sure... We also notice that the pins can loosen up
over time, so we put a SS washer in with the Pin to tighten the loose ones up.

 

[SHOdded]

You might need hood pins if you decide to investigate deep triple digits anyway, belly pan or not.

 

[irondoor19]

You might need hood pins if you decide to investigate deep triple digits anyway, belly pan or not.

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