Stainless Braided Brake Lines - Worth it??

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MiWiAu

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I have some brakes on the way, since I found a decent deal for some EBC Sport rotors and Yellowstuff pads for my XSport.

While I'm replacing those, I'm considering adding stainless lines at all four corners. Does anyone have any first hand experience with stainless braided lines on cars/trucks, and if so, can you comment on whether or not there was a noticeable improvement in brake feel/feedback?

I've put them on my motorcycles and been extremely happy with them, but I suspect the difference would not be as noticeable on a power/boosted brake system.

Thanks!
 
I had them on my 93 f150 the feeling was amazing! But then I did it on my 01 impreza and I felt no difference maybe the rear ones needed to be replaced also.
Have you found a set?

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Gjkrisa said:
Have you found a set?
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I haven't found anything pre-made, yet. There is a shop down the street from me that makes custom lines, though. Before I invested the time/effort in getting a custom set made, I figured I'd ask if there was a difference.

Thanks for the feedback. :)


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I had thought about having a set installed on another car, but was told that the main benefit was improving feel and looks ... firms up the brake pedal, but doesn't really improve braking that much.  Downside potentially being you can't see if the hose inside is in disrepair or not.
 
SHOdded said:
I had thought about having a set installed on another car, but was told that the main benefit was improving feel and looks ... firms up the brake pedal, but doesn't really improve braking that much.  Downside potentially being you can't see if the hose inside is in disrepair or not.
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That's kind of what I figured, especially on newer cars. Cosmetic and maybe some feel, but minimal performance.

I don't put too much stock being able to see the hose. One of the OE rubber lines I had on my F150 collapsed internally. That was awesome. Looked great on the outside, and no amount of inspection would have caught that. :)

Thanks!


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I put SS lines on the front of my 03 mustang, but did so at the same time as a cobra front brake conversion (from 10.9" rotor to a 12.9" rotor, and better caliper and pads as well)

I will say the pedal feel is much firmer, but that could also be attributed to the bigger brakes. Overall, if relatively cheap I like them, especially if you dog on the car, because they can sustain more heat IMO, and offer a good excuse to do a full break fluid flush and add something more high performance.

However, I would not pay more than ~$200 for parts IMO. Past that, it isn't worth it to me.
 
Agree, derfdog15. It can't hurt to get a quote, I suppose. I'm not in a huge hurry, since I probably won't do the brakes until spring. I'd also like to paint the calipers, so if I have them off, I thought it'd be that much easier to change the lines and flush the fluid.

Price has to be right, though. I'll let you know what the charge is if/when I get them quoted.

Thanks again guys!


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Good luck and keep us posted, I know there is a kit for the SHO, linked below:

http://www.autoanything.com/brakes/61A3671A0A0.aspx

It is listed as universal for all 10-13 taurus, but I believe will fit up to the '16. The application list (also linked below) says SEL/SHO only. I don't see an Xsport kit for anything newer than '10 but it may be worth calling the company to see if they have any plans, the SHO kit is only like $150 or so. I plan to buy it for peace of mind whenever I get around to upgrading brakes.

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.jsp?make=Goodridge&model=G-Stop+Brakeline+Kit&group=G-Stop+Brakeline+Kit&partNum=G12348.4&autoMake=Ford&autoModel=Taurus&autoYear=2015&autoModClar=SHO

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.racerpartswholesale.com/downloads/GDRApp.pdf

 
Put them on my regal gs, made a firmer pedal, put on my G8 with good rotors n redstuff made a giant difference. I have a set of good years I think they are, for my SHO 2013 pp, with new pp stock pads synthetic dot 4 fluid set to go on next week.
 
put Goodridge SS on the 2011 & the 2010, Yes you can Feel the Difference

Absolutely worth the Money, if you can find the Pre-made kit, Even better,
Plus THMotorsports had a Christmas Sale they were 60% OFF.....

Very Easy to Install the Pre-made Kit, Fit like they were supposed to, NOW

if you can find them for your ride....

https://thmotorsports.com/brakes/p-10028.aspx?utm_source=ExpressPigeon&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Corsa+and+Volant+Rebate

Wow, you learn something New every Day,
Thanks for that, And I lOV (and hate) this site,
hate it because it make me want to Upgrade everything...HA HA
 
Great, thanks! I haven't seen kits for the XSport. I will check fordparts and see if they call out the same lines as the SHO. I know the rotors and calipers are the same, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the lines are different. Thanks again! :)


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Braided lines do normally improve brake performance, but they come with a cost.

Braided lines have been known to fail on the street because they allow little bits of dirt to migrate between the braid and the line. The dirt erodes the line over time causing failures. This is why few brands are DOT approved.  You would need to replace them every 2 years to be safe.

Be careful.

On edit: More info here http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Mult_stainless_brake/mult_stainless_brake.htm
 
Half-Fast said:
Braided lines do normally improve brake performance, but they come with a cost.

Braided lines have been known to fail on the street because they allow little bits of dirt to migrate between the braid and the line. The dirt erodes the line over time causing failures. This is why few brands are DOT approved.  You would need to replace them every 2 years to be safe.

Be careful.

On edit: More info here http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Mult_stainless_brake/mult_stainless_brake.htm
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Good points, sir, thank you. I have stainless braided lines on my R6, but those lines have an outer overmold, so dirt intrusion causing abrasion under the braid is a non-issue. I just assumed auto lines would be the same, but something to be aware of for sure.

I'm not sure I buy the line in the article about braid hiding imminent failure, though. If your rubber line showed signs of swelling, sure, but I had an internal line failure on a stock rubber line on my 2001 F150, and there were no external signs of imminent failure. I'm in the "maybe, maybe not" camp on this point. :)


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MiWiAu said:
I'm not sure I buy the line in the article about braid hiding imminent failure, though. If your rubber line showed signs of swelling, sure, but I had an internal line failure on a stock rubber line on my 2001 F150, and there were no external signs of imminent failure. I'm in the "maybe, maybe not" camp on this point. :)
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If indeed the issue is with the dirt intrusion, the underlying silicone line can be damaged and fail with no outward signs of damage.  Sure, this can happen with a rubber line, but it's a "less common" failure from what I have seen.  I have a road race car, and normally don't go more than 3 seasons on a set of lines.  I could likely go longer, but I really like the ability to stop, and it's cheap insurance compared to what I spend on tires alone...
 
irondoor19 said:
put Goodridge SS on the 2011 & the 2010, Yes you can Feel the Difference

Absolutely worth the Money, if you can find the Pre-made kit, Even better,
Plus THMotorsports had a Christmas Sale they were 60% OFF.....

Very Easy to Install the Pre-made Kit, Fit like they were supposed to, NOW

if you can find them for your ride....

https://thmotorsports.com/brakes/p-10028.aspx?utm_source=ExpressPigeon&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Corsa+and+Volant+Rebate

Wow, you learn something New every Day,
Thanks for that, And I lOV (and hate) this site,
hate it because it make me want to Upgrade everything...HA HA
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I just ordered a set of Goodridge from these guys, they were the cheapest i was able to find.

$126 shipped for all 4
 
irondoor19 said:
put Goodridge SS on the 2011 & the 2010, Yes you can Feel the Difference

Absolutely worth the Money, if you can find the Pre-made kit, Even better,
Plus THMotorsports had a Christmas Sale they were 60% OFF.....

Very Easy to Install the Pre-made Kit, Fit like they were supposed to, NOW

if you can find them for your ride....

https://thmotorsports.com/brakes/p-10028.aspx?utm_source=ExpressPigeon&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Corsa+and+Volant+Rebate

Wow, you learn something New every Day,
Thanks for that, And I lOV (and hate) this site,
hate it because it make me want to Upgrade everything...HA HA
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I put these on my 2011 Flex when I did the HD brake upgrade recently. I also bought them from THMotorsports. Shipping was delayed and was told it was a manufacturing issue, apparently got it resolved... Install was easy and straight forward.
 
Bleh... according to Tasca the XSport and SHO use the same front flex lines, but the rears are different. I can have Brakequip custom DOT lines made locally, but I was roughly quoted $50-60 per line. I'll have to chew on it. Baby on the way, so all expenses are getting extra scrutiny...


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