Swapping a 3.5L Ecoboost into.....

[walt460]

In my book, the way to do a F150 Ecoboost swap into any other vehicle is to buy a wrecked truck that "lot-drives", that way you know all the parts you need are good before you start the swap.  Before you buy a truck, you need to decide if you are going 2WD or 4WD and whether you want to have a floor shift or column shift, and buy accordingly.  If you want the manual control of the trans shifting feature, you must use the factory shifter on floor or column, no aftermarket device has this feature that I know about.

There a lot of issues with swapping this engine.  The major one is that the factory wiring is so complex and integrated, but there will be a 3.5LEB/6R80 swap harness coming to market in the near future.

 

[abe_lincoln78]

Walt;

I've been following your comments on ecoboost swaps closely for some time now.  I'm extremely interested in doing either ecoboost/6R80 or 5.0/6R80 swap and find it important to use the factory cal as a baseline for either.  Is this aftermarket solution for making a factory ECM/TCM combination work in other vehicles coming as close as it seems?  I've searched the web about this on many occasions but really can't find any info.

 

[abcgum091]

I have a feeling that you will start to see many 3.5 Ecoboost swaps once the controls PAK comes out. Looking forward to it!

 

[sunwolf]

I want a 1966 Lincoln Continental convertible with a 3.5 ecoboost now.

 

[abe_lincoln78]

I'm sure you're right about the controls pack, but with 4 forward gears from a 4r70w as the automatic transmission limit much of the magic from these engines will be lost.  The 6r80 has so much wider a ratio spread we can dig deep off the line while still having great highway gears.  I really think that's a big deal and something that will push the hot rod industry over the edge.  Suddenly we can use a 3.08 gear but have all the grunt we needed 4.10 for before.  All this time we still get closer gear spacing so there is a correct gear for many more situations.  Because of that I expect many will pass until we have the option.

I'm pretty sure that's a 462 car.  I'd keep that thing showroom stock just to preserve that engine.

 

[6.7cumminspwr]

Hey guys, I know this is an old thread. I'm new here to this forum. I have a project with a 2006 ford Mustang. I'm swapping a 2011 ford f-150 eco-boost into it. I just picked up the motor, computer, engine wire harness, mounts, turbos.. Will I need the smart fuse box? Bcm? Steering column? I just saw this thread online and decided to ask if these were necessary items... I'm running a mt-82 on it. Any help or pointers would be appreciated. Thanks guys. I will post pictures and keep you guys updated.

 

[glock-coma]

Welcome to the forum!!!
This thread should be helpful if you haven't checked it out yet.
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=4279

 

[walt460]

Welcome to the forum!!!
This thread should be helpful if you haven't checked it out yet.
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=4279

If you are doing a 3.5L Ecoboost engine swap and plan to use a manual trans, you should seriously consider using the Ford Performance (formally Ford Racing) Controls Pak for the 3.5L EB.  I heard that it will be available in November 2015 while I was just at SEMA.

Walt

 

[walt460]

Also at SEMA I found that Hotwire (wiring company in Arkansas) will make a engine/trans harness for the 2011-2015 F150 Ecoboost/6R80.  They want your original factory harnesses if possible as some of the connector shells are not available, but for $1100 the will make the harness in any lengths you need, so custom made harness all tested and labeled that will run a 3.5L EB/6R80 with the stock PCM in just about any vehicle you can put it into with just hooking up 5 wires.  hotwireauto.com is their website.

Also, you will need to have the PATS feature turned off in your PCM, and so far the only company that can do that is HP tuners, but you must ship your PCM to them to get that done.

Walt

 

[ajpturbo]

Also, you will need to have the PATS feature turned off in your PCM, and so far the only company that can do that is HP tuners, but you must ship your PCM to them to get that done.

Walt

Sct has the ability to disable pats....always have actually

 

[walt460]

No, actually SCT does not have the ability to turn off PATS in 2011-up Ford PCMs.  I lot of guys think that SCT does, because their tuner menu actually has such a selection, but it does not work for 2011-up Ford PCMs.

The only company that has successfully shown that they can turn off PATS for a 2011-up Ford PCM is HP Tuners, and they can only do it if you send them your PCM, can not be done with their current release or any planned release of their software.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

AJP asked me to post this because he suffers from iFail.

 

[SHOdded]

I believe Forscan has the ability to manage PATS also?

 

[4DRHTRD]

Also at SEMA I found that Hotwire (wiring company in Arkansas) will make a engine/trans harness for the 2011-2015 F150 Ecoboost/6R80.  They want your original factory harnesses if possible as some of the connector shells are not available, but for $1100 the will make the harness in any lengths you need, so custom made harness all tested and labeled that will run a 3.5L EB/6R80 with the stock PCM in just about any vehicle you can put it into with just hooking up 5 wires.  hotwireauto.com is their website.

Also, you will need to have the PATS feature turned off in your PCM, and so far the only company that can do that is HP tuners, but you must ship your PCM to them to get that done.

Walt

Well hopefully they can make one for the new Raptor dual fuel engine next year and the 10 speed trans.

 

[walt460]

I can't wait for technical details on the 2017 Raptor's 3.5L Ecoboost.  I know that it will include new/revised cylinder heads and rumor has it with new higher capacity high-pressure fuel pump to allow HP to jump to over 425HP, Rumor is more like 450HP.  That power level with the new 10-speed should make a great powertrain to swap into some cool street rides.  You can bet that the PCM and wiring will be new/revised, but I look forward to the challenge.

 

[4DRHTRD]

I can't wait for technical details on the 2017 Raptor's 3.5L Ecoboost.  I know that it will include new/revised cylinder heads and rumor has it with new higher capacity high-pressure fuel pump to allow HP to jump to over 425HP, Rumor is more like 450HP.  That power level with the new 10-speed should make a great powertrain to swap into some cool street rides.  You can bet that the PCM and wiring will be new/revised, but I look forward to the challenge.

It's DI and PFI, no more DI restrictions

 

[walt460]

It's DI and PFI, no more DI restrictions

That is good news!  Interesting to see how they do that, maybe parts can be added to earlier 3.5L EB engines.

 

[walt460]

I see all the Ford Performance dealers are now selling the 3.5L EB Controls Pak.  Solution for anyone wanting to go with a manual trans.

 

[4DRHTRD]

It's DI and PFI, no more DI restrictions

That is good news!  Interesting to see how they do that, maybe parts can be added to earlier 3.5L EB engines.

I asked that, the heads are new and the new intake manifold won't swap onto the old heads unfortunately. I was really hoping that the manifold would retrofit.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

This company says it can program PATS...

http://www.drewtech.com/products/Mongoose/mongoosepwm.html

All for the low low price of $495