To EBC/PowerStop or not... THAT is the question!

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14SHOCAR

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Hey all-- it's been a while since I've posted.... I'm curious of the collective opinion of this group. I've read multiple stories now of bad experiences with EBC red stuff wearing quickly, PowerStop rotors warping and fading on the track, and well, just overall mediocre results with aftermarket brake setups.

I need new brakes -- the brakes are starting to squeak at 54k.... So-- should I keep factory or go aftermarket? All input is always accepted and weighed.

Forgot to add -- my car is 2014 non-PP.
 
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I have ebc slotted with red stuff pads. They just started squealing at 14k....
The shims are getting oblong at the mount tab holes and wearing.
I would replace the pad but then I would have to turn the rotor. No one around me will turn a slotted rotor.

Before they started squealing I was very happen with them.
 
You may not be able to get EBC brakes for your year, fyi.  I was not able to get them when I was looking to rid my SHO of the shitty OEM rotors.  There was a permanent backorder on the rotors front and back with no ETA on producing them again.  That may have changed but it didn't look good when I inquired.

As for recommendations, I personally went with Powerstop's and couldn't be happier with them.  Now I don't abuse the **** out of them such as road course/auto-x but above normal driving with some spirited back country road hauling they work very well for me.  I'd suspect they'd hold up just fine with some 1/4 mile track days also.

Take the bad stuff with a grain of salt...people who don't have issues with products don't usually say anything.  But you'll likely hear all the bad stuff about anything.

PS - I'd love me some Wilwood's but I don't have Donald Trump's money to buy them. :D
 
I ordered a set of Yellow stuff front kit....The GD rotors and pads are on backorder until at least late july.

I think you can get redstuff now

The PP pads aren't too bad...I've beat them up pretty bad
 
I went the Power Stop Route, Lasted 4000 Miles and 1/2 Track Day,
yea,  i ride it like i stole it Most of the time (Every day is a track day)
Till I Ripped the Pad off one side, (only 20 Laps) and Grinding all the way Home..

EBC and Red, and I Am Way Way happy Now,  ;D
 
Gen 4.2 does 60-0 in 106 ft which is damn good and is better or equal to many performance cars.

Having owned PP and nonPP the only difference is fade resistance and pad noise. My nonPP howled when they were hot.

PP may have more initial bite when warm and provoked but that could be my imagination.

Wilwoods are beautiful, but I love my brakes and without any instrumented testing and my history with supposed "upgrades" I'm reluctant to gamble with that kind of cash outlay.

I'd say 54K out of the oem setup is a pretty good testament of its quality.
 
FoMoCoSHO said:
My nonPP howled when they were hot.
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That is what mine do regularly due to the mountain area I am in.  Does not inspire confidence.  I am going to switch to the PP calipers.

Has anyone here tried StopTech slotted rotors?  We have the EBC Ultra's on our Fit and they are great.  Just trying to spend less money if possible.
 
For heavyduty use, a plain rotor is going to be best.  Also make sure the rotor you select has high carbon content specifically listed.  Autozone stocks them for some applications.  I am pretty sure the StopTech rotors are also high carbon, but it's kinda difficult to make out from the jargon.  Best to call them and inquire about the application.
 
Cryotreating/tempering can help a ton with extended and hard usage. Did it on my last car and the rotors lasted longer than anything else I had on that car. Plan to do it again when what is on the fusion stock is done.
 
glock-coma said:
I have ebc slotted with red stuff pads. They just started squealing at 14k....
The shims are getting oblong at the mount tab holes and wearing.
I would replace the pad but then I would have to turn the rotor. No one around me will turn a slotted rotor.

Before they started squealing I was very happen with them.
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mine just squeaking recently as well... i forget how many miles, maybe 20k? but i haven't had the time to jack the car up and inspect....
 
Hey everyone -- thank you for the replies. I've had PowerStop rotors before as well, and I've had mixed results with them. My Olds Alero had great performance. My Grand Prix ate through the pads pretty quickly. My 2012 Impala was pretty good. My friend who has a Toyota 4 Runner has cracking + a bit of pre-mature brake fade when braking hard.

I do, however, love the look of a car with cross drilled brake pads.

Last -- Brake pads -- Red stuff sounds like bottom end -- what about yellow stuff?


 
I am going with either Raybestos or Bendix Police spec pads.  Had police spec pads on my CVPI and they were very durable.  I have had Carbotech, Hawk, and EBC pads on others, but none were more durable.  Some had more bight and were better for track use, but I want quiet and durable this time.
 
A few months ago I put on Centric premium rotors and Centric Posi-Quiet Extended wear pads.
The pads are noisy when cold. This setup is very dusty on the front, I think the pads dust when sitting still, ha. The dust is more like iron than black brake dust.
The OEM pads were not nearly as dusty.
Otherwise, seems OK to me...

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I have for quite sometime now espouse the Motorcraft or my personal favorite the Raybestos brake pads which are overall great quality pads without having to break the bank but unfortunately have had no time as of late to try them but here is a pretty cool article which will give you some insight and an in depth view on the different compounds of friction pad material and even track use for your reading pleasure.  Z    http://www.hendonpub.com/resources/article_archive/results/details?id=1846
 
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