Transverse Intercooler discussion

Problem with air to air isn't just having the room to fit, it needs to be in the right spot to be at its full potential. 

Can anything be done to the factory intercooler to it?


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Yep, finally got onto an actual notebook and looked up your info.

For anyone interested, particularly you SHO owners on the far East Coast.....

Please visit AMR's website ------> http://automasteramr.com/about/

By providing AMR staff with your vehicle for testing and/or design work of a hypothetical, proposed intercooler upgrade, this will likely prove beneficial not only to you as an individual donor, but also the SHO community overall.

Thanks AMR for considering this potential product, and hopefully someone here steps up and contacts your company to work out the particulars.

Mike :beer:

 
AMR,

If you build it we will....

buy it !!!!!

Assuming the benefits justify the cost and effort of the upgrade. I love the idea of a simple intercooler swap since if probably wouldn't really effect the car in any other way other than to just add power.
 
Josephm said:
A top mount with a hood scoop would be an interesting option but not the best option..

It works well on the Subaru's since they have room behind the top mount for airflow. I think our engine bays would be too cramped to fit the intercooler, and have good airflow across it.

What about running two smaller side mount intercoolers like you see done in aftermarket setups on...I wanna say Vettes?
 
Guys, I'll see what I can do. I'll take my car to the shop hopefully this weekend and see if any of the cores there will fit. I have a unmodded 2013. Was going to order some stuff from livernois way back, but some issues caused me from pulling the trigger. I need to stop playing around and get to modding. I'll try to report back this weekend.

Strong first post, I know.
 
Having had the front bumper cover off numerous times, my opinion only, is that since any option would be custom to begin with.....

There does seem to be enough room behind the front, upper grille, above the actual bumper.

Those that have the 2013+ PP option, or for those who have retro fitted the Aux Tranny Cooler in pre-'13 model years, designing anything below the front bumper is not an option due to the Aux Tranny Cooler being in the way.

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bpd1151 said:
Having had the front bumper cover off numerous times, my opinion only, is that since any option would be custom to begin with.....

There does seem to be enough room behind the front, upper grille, above the actual bumper.

Those that have the 2013+ PP option, or for those who have retro fitted the Aux Tranny Cooler in pre-'13 model years, designing anything below the front bumper is not an option due to the Aux Tranny Cooler being in the way.

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Mike I'm going to disagree again, there's only enough room for maybe a 200HP core there, it will be shiny pretty pretty but not efficient. You need a good sized area to be able to get a big enough core in there. Maybe if you hacked out the bumper support massively it could be done.
 
bpd1151 said:
We can agree to disagree.

Love 'ya.

Smooches. :wub:

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Here's some core sizes and HP that they support. Remember you'll have to weld on end tanks that will increase the size about 4-6" (at least) for piping.
Don't forget about the depth either, you'll need some area front and back to fit it. Also blocking the 80% of the intercooler with bumper mask doesn't help either.
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/intercoolers

Hate to see people spend money on an intercooler upgrade and not get a real benefit, an air to air bumper area intercooler is going to be at least 1200 if not closer to $2K due to piping, fittings, intercooler, brackets etc. Would suck to spend that and pick up 10HP....
With Bigmac's help by using his car after the downpipes, hot pipes and cold air we can look at creating a water to air kit which would be much more efficient and offer bigger results and support higher HP in the long run as well.
 
4DRHTRD said:
bpd1151 said:
We can agree to disagree.

Love 'ya.

Smooches. :wub:

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Here's some core sizes and HP that they support. Remember you'll have to weld on end tanks that will increase the size about 4-6" (at least) for piping.
Don't forget about the depth either, you'll need some area front and back to fit it. Also blocking the 80% of the intercooler with bumper mask doesn't help either.
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/intercoolers

Hate to see people spend money on an intercooler upgrade and not get a real benefit, an air to air bumper area intercooler is going to be at least 1200 if not closer to $2K due to piping, fittings, intercooler, brackets etc. Would suck to spend that and pick up 10HP....
With Bigmac's help by using his car after the downpipes, hot pipes and cold air we can look at creating a water to air kit which would be much more efficient and offer bigger results and support higher HP in the long run as well.

My wife's gonna kill me…  :chop:  It may be worth a look… something creative like a "scoop" in the lower soft "air dam" (the one we destroy on curbing) and a mounting behind there.. maybe short vertically and the width of the car….who knows. I agree that it's tight and may not work.  I also agree that $2K for minimal gain would be just "modding 'cuz I can", an expensive and fruitless endeavor

I'll stay open minded for now.

BTW…. do folks remember when we could raise the hood of a car, crawl in the engine compartment and stand on the ground beside the engine to work on it?….
 
Well i do want a front mount.. And if we could get the fueling system figured out. Then for the people using Water meth can go back to using a 50/50 mix and use it for its extra fuel and chemical intercooling benifit.

Still a slighly undersized IC that is mounted to get good air flow would still do better than the factory IC.
 
panther427 said:
Well i do want a front mount.. And if we could get the fueling system figured out. Then for the people using Water meth can go back to using a 50/50 mix and use it for its extra fuel and chemical intercooling benifit.

Still a slighly undersized IC that is mounted to get good air flow would still do better than the factory IC.
Fueling is ready if you want to cut your wiring harness to stock fuel pump, I can sell the upgraded pump setup now if people want them.
 
Didn't get a chance to get into the shop this weekend. Got called into work this weekend. Hopefully this coming weekend though.
 
Not sure how much space you guys have on the SHO, but what about a smaller intercooler in the lower grill that supplements the factory one. Forge makes one that works well on the 2.0t vw.
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There is a factory intercooler buried between the radiator and ac condenser on those cars similar to the ecoboost. The boost hose makes a Y and goes through both intercoolers increasing the cooling capacity. Just brainstorming.
 
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