Tuning the 3.0 Continental
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Macgyver said:TopherSho said:SHOdded said:Once you get it down perfect, go back to stock and compare
Reverting to stock after Brad is like driving through marshmallows and makes me cry inside...
LOLOLOLOL
Thats Funny
Seriously.. its like ''stomp on the gas'' .... /car says/ wellll ... okay ... we'll go faster ... eventually... and make awful noises doing it
Yup, Brad is pretty good!!! Glad your seeing success Brucelinc!!!
Brad is also pretty patient. I am a complete rookie at using SCT, Livelink, SCT updater, building config files, and datalogging. I was used to Livernois where even a drunken chimpanzee could flash the car with the MyCal. I am no rookie with most technology but I typically like to know what I am doing before I do it rather than just blindly jumping into something with no clue about the end result.
I have had help from some people on these forums and the "How-to" section was valuable. However, Brad was very helpful in clearing up a few things that I was foggy on. I also had to keep telling myself that I couldn't possibly be the stupidest human being that ever used SCT and the accompanied software. :doh:
I have had help from some people on these forums and the "How-to" section was valuable. However, Brad was very helpful in clearing up a few things that I was foggy on. I also had to keep telling myself that I couldn't possibly be the stupidest human being that ever used SCT and the accompanied software. :doh:
Tune update:
I think we are extremely close to having my Conti tune near perfection for me. Brad has tested a number of things and made appropriate tweaks. The Conti ECU has some significant differences from the SHO/MKS so I appreciate Brad's willingness to tackle this when no other tuner would.
We are basically down to getting the shift points right. The power and shift quickness/firmness are both present and accounted for! Brad says we could definitely go further if I want to run E85. Apparently, the fuel pressure is great. I just don't have E85 close enough to make it convenient to use.
I am anxious to go to the track. As usual, they are predicting extreme heat, humidity and likely thunderstorms for the street legal drags at Brainerd this week! Even if not rained out, the DA will likely be in the 3000-3500 range so I won't really see the car's best numbers.
I think we are extremely close to having my Conti tune near perfection for me. Brad has tested a number of things and made appropriate tweaks. The Conti ECU has some significant differences from the SHO/MKS so I appreciate Brad's willingness to tackle this when no other tuner would.
We are basically down to getting the shift points right. The power and shift quickness/firmness are both present and accounted for! Brad says we could definitely go further if I want to run E85. Apparently, the fuel pressure is great. I just don't have E85 close enough to make it convenient to use.
I am anxious to go to the track. As usual, they are predicting extreme heat, humidity and likely thunderstorms for the street legal drags at Brainerd this week! Even if not rained out, the DA will likely be in the 3000-3500 range so I won't really see the car's best numbers.
After comparing the Continental dragstrip timeslips with those of my old MKS, it is obvious that the AJP tuned 3.0 in my Continental is making more power than the Livernois 4+X or race tune was in my MKS.
The MKS did run a 12.68 once on a very cool morning with around a 500 DA but in air comparable to what the Conti has been in, the MKS was not quite as quick in the 1/8 or 1/4. The Conti is heavier than the MKS and cannot be launched as hard due to wheel hop. Even launched at 12-1400 rpm, the Conti is comparable or better than the MKS launched at 2000 rpm. I will give some of the credit to the 3.39 gear in the Conti vs 2.77 in the MKS. Launching both from an idle, I know the Conti would pull away from the MKS quite easily. Even when stock, I think the Conti would stay with my tuned MKS up to 30 MPH or so if both were launched from an idle.
The MKS was easier to launch and I think the transmission shifted a bit quicker and more firmly at WOT. It also ran cooler and IAT 2 temps were MUCH cooler. For those reasons, I loved running the MKS at the track. The Conti is really not well suited for racing. It is a heavy and softly sprung luxury car but with the tuned 3.0 it is one helluva sleeper and great daily driver.
The MKS did run a 12.68 once on a very cool morning with around a 500 DA but in air comparable to what the Conti has been in, the MKS was not quite as quick in the 1/8 or 1/4. The Conti is heavier than the MKS and cannot be launched as hard due to wheel hop. Even launched at 12-1400 rpm, the Conti is comparable or better than the MKS launched at 2000 rpm. I will give some of the credit to the 3.39 gear in the Conti vs 2.77 in the MKS. Launching both from an idle, I know the Conti would pull away from the MKS quite easily. Even when stock, I think the Conti would stay with my tuned MKS up to 30 MPH or so if both were launched from an idle.
The MKS was easier to launch and I think the transmission shifted a bit quicker and more firmly at WOT. It also ran cooler and IAT 2 temps were MUCH cooler. For those reasons, I loved running the MKS at the track. The Conti is really not well suited for racing. It is a heavy and softly sprung luxury car but with the tuned 3.0 it is one helluva sleeper and great daily driver.
There is a guy on Facebook with a Livernois tuned MKZ 3.0 that only ran 13.5 at the track in good air. That is NO improvement over stock. Not sure what the issue was but I would be screaming if it were me. Another guy on a different forum claimed to run in the high 12s in 8000 DA but I don't recall seeing any timeslips. I think he had some other mods, too.
I am looking forward to seeing how the LMS tune performs based on my butt dyno. Tracks will be closing after this weekend so I won't be able to really test it.
I am looking forward to seeing how the LMS tune performs based on my butt dyno. Tracks will be closing after this weekend so I won't be able to really test it.
AJP turbo said:
I doubt if their tune will perform as well as yours. They got very good with SHO tunes after having tons of experience with them. I believe they have only had one MKZ and one Continental in their shop so their experience is more limited. With your ability to review my logs and make tweaks specific to my car, I suspect your tune is better.
If it doesn't rain, I am going to the track tomorrow with your E tune. It is cooler now so I am hoping for something in the 12.6 or 12.7 range.
Twas the night before Christmas and in my garage,
I heard a strange rattle but I don’t own a Dodge.
I opened the door and heard hooves go click click,
There stood Rudolph and good old St. Nick!
I was quite shocked and didn’t know what to say,
Santa said, “nice Lincoln, would you trade for my sleigh?”
I said, “no way, Santa,” and started to grin,
“but if you have some time, we could go for a spin.”
His little round mouth, all turned up like a bow,
turned into a smile and he said “Yes, let’s go!”
I stepped on the gas and he said, “Man, that’s rad!”
I had to explain that the tune was from Brad.
As the turbos spooled up, he was taken by surprise,
But he liked it a lot by the look in his eyes.
Santa was giddy and never felt so alive,
So I backed off the gas and said, “Wanta drive?”
With his left foot on the brake and right on the gas,
He built up some boost and really hauled @ss!
Shoved back in the seat, Santa said, “I’ve been thinkin’
What I need tonight is your hotrod Lincoln!
“Not for sale,” I said “no matter what you say,
Just get my friend Brad to tune up your sleigh!”
I heard a strange rattle but I don’t own a Dodge.
I opened the door and heard hooves go click click,
There stood Rudolph and good old St. Nick!
I was quite shocked and didn’t know what to say,
Santa said, “nice Lincoln, would you trade for my sleigh?”
I said, “no way, Santa,” and started to grin,
“but if you have some time, we could go for a spin.”
His little round mouth, all turned up like a bow,
turned into a smile and he said “Yes, let’s go!”
I stepped on the gas and he said, “Man, that’s rad!”
I had to explain that the tune was from Brad.
As the turbos spooled up, he was taken by surprise,
But he liked it a lot by the look in his eyes.
Santa was giddy and never felt so alive,
So I backed off the gas and said, “Wanta drive?”
With his left foot on the brake and right on the gas,
He built up some boost and really hauled @ss!
Shoved back in the seat, Santa said, “I’ve been thinkin’
What I need tonight is your hotrod Lincoln!
“Not for sale,” I said “no matter what you say,
Just get my friend Brad to tune up your sleigh!”