Wrapping the OEM intake

[ajpturbo]

What types of IAT's are you guys seeing? I'm seeing 3-5 degrees over ambient temp with a K&N FIPK style intake with a green filter. This was today in 94 degree Atlanta weather with major humidity. Granted the intake is powdercoated wrinkle black with heat resistant tape on the filter side of the heat shield. The only time my IAT's rise considerably is when idling.I saw 124* at idle. As soon as I'm back on the throttle for roughly an 1/8th of a mile the IAT's settle back to the 3-5 degrees over ambient temp I mentioned earlier. I can see how on the dyno, a typical cold air intake for these cars would yield less than favorable results. In the real world I don't see them to be a problem. My data is from the Torque app with a bluetooth OBD2 reader. I never logged my stock intake to compare; but what are you folks seeing with stock intakes? IAT wise? At idle and while cruising.

I would say you are NOT logging IAT2

 

[TopherSho]

What types of IAT's are you guys seeing? I'm seeing 3-5 degrees over ambient temp with a K&N FIPK style intake with a green filter. This was today in 94 degree Atlanta weather with major humidity. Granted the intake is powdercoated wrinkle black with heat resistant tape on the filter side of the heat shield. The only time my IAT's rise considerably is when idling.I saw 124* at idle. As soon as I'm back on the throttle for roughly an 1/8th of a mile the IAT's settle back to the 3-5 degrees over ambient temp I mentioned earlier. I can see how on the dyno, a typical cold air intake for these cars would yield less than favorable results. In the real world I don't see them to be a problem. My data is from the Torque app with a bluetooth OBD2 reader. I never logged my stock intake to compare; but what are you folks seeing with stock intakes? IAT wise? At idle and while cruising.

I would say you are NOT logging IAT2

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[boosted4SHO]

What types of IAT's are you guys seeing? I'm seeing 3-5 degrees over ambient temp with a K&N FIPK style intake with a green filter. This was today in 94 degree Atlanta weather with major humidity. Granted the intake is powdercoated wrinkle black with heat resistant tape on the filter side of the heat shield. The only time my IAT's rise considerably is when idling.I saw 124* at idle. As soon as I'm back on the throttle for roughly an 1/8th of a mile the IAT's settle back to the 3-5 degrees over ambient temp I mentioned earlier. I can see how on the dyno, a typical cold air intake for these cars would yield less than favorable results. In the real world I don't see them to be a problem. My data is from the Torque app with a bluetooth OBD2 reader. I never logged my stock intake to compare; but what are you folks seeing with stock intakes? IAT wise? At idle and while cruising.

I would say you are NOT logging IAT2

You are correct. I will start logging both. IAT1 is near the intake filter and IAT2 is at the charge air cooler? Or vice versa?

Edit: while searching the forum, I found it. IAT1 is directly after the intake air filter and IAT2 is part of the MAP sensor on top of the intake manifold. This forum is a wealth of knowledge!

 

[Brucelinc]

At the track in this hot summer weather, I see IAT2 temps in the 150-180 range.  As mentioned, you can do all you can to cool things down while in the pit area but at my track, it is common to wait in the staging lines for 20 minutes or so - sometimes longer.  Temps just keep rising.  I don't think the intercooler on my Conti is as efficient as on my old MKS.  I don't recall seeing IAT2 temps as high with it.  I know the lower grill area on the Conti is much smaller than the MKS.

I would kill for a cool day and having the track all to myself!

 

[ajpturbo]

What types of IAT's are you guys seeing? I'm seeing 3-5 degrees over ambient temp with a K&N FIPK style intake with a green filter. This was today in 94 degree Atlanta weather with major humidity. Granted the intake is powdercoated wrinkle black with heat resistant tape on the filter side of the heat shield. The only time my IAT's rise considerably is when idling.I saw 124* at idle. As soon as I'm back on the throttle for roughly an 1/8th of a mile the IAT's settle back to the 3-5 degrees over ambient temp I mentioned earlier. I can see how on the dyno, a typical cold air intake for these cars would yield less than favorable results. In the real world I don't see them to be a problem. My data is from the Torque app with a bluetooth OBD2 reader. I never logged my stock intake to compare; but what are you folks seeing with stock intakes? IAT wise? At idle and while cruising.

I would say you are NOT logging IAT2

You are correct. I will start logging both. IAT1 is near the intake filter and IAT2 is at the charge air cooler? Or vice versa?

Edit: while searching the forum, I found it. IAT1 is directly after the intake air filter and IAT2 is part of the MAP sensor on top of the intake manifold. This forum is a wealth of knowledge!

Yeah I'd say IAT is the airbox and CAC temp is the TIP sensor between the throttle body and intercooler and IAT2 is the MAP sensor on the manifold.

 

[irondoor19]

OK:

I was toying with the idea of a Water to Air Intercooler in leu of the CAI,
and not sure that the Temp Drop would be of benefit (versus the weight)..
SO i found this, Very Similar to the DIM's of the Mdesign... Installation and
use would be for the Track Only. Removable and Water Ice Lines with Quick Disconnects

http://www.siliconeintakes.com/front-mount-intercooler/long-flow-style-water-to-air-intercooler-p-219.html

If not in the Air inlet, Maybe jammed in the Intercooler outlet and back into the intake...? Comments

 

[Macgyver]

So you want to mount this on the intake side. Wouldnt the lower intake temp this creates just be offset but the restricted flow?

I would mount it. If possible. Replace the intake pipe before the Throttle body. Is it small enough to fit there ?

 

[irondoor19]

So you want to mount this on the intake side. Wouldnt the lower intake temp this creates just be offset but the restricted flow?

I would mount it. If possible. Replace the intake pipe before the Throttle body. Is it small enough to fit there ?

This intercooler only has a .1 PSI loss, So the only downside is the heat up after the turbos,
and the install looks to be very simple, Must move the AITemp Sensor to the Elbow, and the
quick connects and the mounting are the only engineering hurtles, NOW is it worth the weight gain
i do not know....

the only way to get it in before the Intake would be: Mount in between the radiator and motor and pipe back to the Inlet, a Tight fit but i think do able, SO first up is the Remote front mount 3 7" fan set, Working on that today, Details to be up on the forum by the end of the Week....!

 

[gtmorgan23]

IAT1 is directly after the intake air filter and IAT2 is part of the MAP sensor on top of the intake manifold.

So I know the IAT1 can be monitored on the SCT X4 and mine is usually just a few degrees higher than outdoor temps. I will have to tinker with my SCT to see if I can find the IAT2 or TIP sensor.

 

[irondoor19]

SO what is the Temp Sensor in front of the Radiator Stack....?
(between the Grill and the Trans Cooler...)..?

 

[bpd1151]

SO what is the Temp Sensor in front of the Radiator Stack....?
(between the Grill and the Trans Cooler...)..?

Provides the outside temp you see on your head unit/Navi acreen

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[Agentlongwood]

SO what is the Temp Sensor in front of the Radiator Stack....?
(between the Grill and the Trans Cooler...)..?

Provides the outside temp you see on your head unit/Navi acreen

Does the computer use that sensor for anything performance related?  I ask because mine is usually off by a good bit.  5-10 degrees sometimes.  For example, my weather app said 71 the other day and walking outside it sure felt like that.  The touchscreen in my car said 78 though.  It sure as heck didn't feel that warm at the time.  I have also seen mine change by 5-10 degrees in just a few seconds for apparently no reason.  Steady speed highway driving and bam, 8 degree temp change on that screen lol.

 

[bpd1151]

Nope. No performance aspects related.

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[ZSHO]

SO what is the Temp Sensor in front of the Radiator Stack....?
(between the Grill and the Trans Cooler...)..?

Provides the outside temp you see on your head unit/Navi acreen

Does the computer use that sensor for anything performance related?  I ask because mine is usually off by a good bit.  5-10 degrees sometimes.  For example, my weather app said 71 the other day and walking outside it sure felt like that.  The touchscreen in my car said 78 though.  It sure as heck didn't feel that warm at the time.  I have also seen mine change by 5-10 degrees in just a few seconds for apparently no reason.  Steady speed highway driving and bam, 8 degree temp change on that screen lol.

It sounds like its your AMBIENT TEMP SENSOR -(AU5Z12A647B) $10.78 ea.  Z
But is it really worth the hassle to change it!  Meh!!
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[SHOdded]

Yup, good ole AAT.  Works in combination with the incabin temp sensor in the driverside dash.

 

[bpd1151]

It's also not uncommon for that sensor to provide innacuarate readings, especially for those who have aftermarket grilles. The sun beaming directly onto will cause that.

Also, that sensor has a tendency to become dirty, clogged, etc. particularly in those parts of the country that apply road salt did I g the winter months.

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[ZSHO]

X3- some preventative maintenance is in store in having both sensors cleaned inside/out. 
I used a can of air cleaner for the inside cabin sensor which worked quite well. dust- dust.  Z