All flow, no sound
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ZSHO said:They look fine to me,enjoy the ride without the interuptions.lol ZDxlnt1 said:ajpturbo said:
Ha ha!
SHOdded said:Looks & sounds great, Dxlnt1! Glad you finally got these upgrades done
Thanks. I am glad it sounds just as quiet stock but with increased throughput. And mild turbo whistle.
I think ajpturbo was just lashing back about the "hard ass" comment! lol. He knows for a muffler shop those are great welds. Besides, you have to keep in mind they were attaching 2 1/4" pipe to 2 1/2" X-pipe.
But car is re energized again. Next, meth???
SHOdded said:
Whew that is so so true. I at least want to see someone's install before I attempt it on my own. At least another SHO owner to bounce thoughts and ideas off of.
sunwolf said:
My thoughts are the little increase is minimal when all I am pushing through is 425 hp max. Too cost prohibitive. I think another $200-$500. And I don't like the noise that and drone that comes from cars that are not moving enough air to truly make the exhaust sing. Cant make a V6 sound like a V8 without some serious $$$. Besides, I don't run at the track enough benefit from the added flow. Maybe if I do meth install I will revisit.
I am keeping my eye open for the Ford GT crate motor. Once its available, my car will be paid for and warranty won't be an issue. Imagine having a 600 hp ecoboost engine in the SHO. And Im sure LMS will have some sort of tune for it. So now with a tune, DP's and maybe meth a 700 plus hp 4500 lb sleeper. Even the Hellcats wouldn't wanna mess with the SHO!
wasinger3000
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I'll be in the LA area mid July if you haven't become a meth user by then I can show you my setup.Dxlnt1 said:
another member on here had pretty much the identical car as me with the only difference being a full cat back exhaust. Corsa I think. We ran 0-140 videos side by side and it seemed to me that his car pulled more and more after 80mph. 0-80 was about the same so I think the extra flow on these cars is more noticeable with higher load on the engine. If racing over 80mph is your thing it might be worth it.
that post is around here somewhere.....
that post is around here somewhere.....
bpd1151
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Dxlnt1 said:
No need to imagine.
No need to wait.
An 805hp (at the motor) engine is already lurking under my SHO's hood.
Compliments of course, of Livernois Motorsports.
So they have the all the solutions & tuning ready to go.
The next biggest hurdle right now, is the drive train & it's related components.
I plan on only running my 525awhp (680 at the motor) tune file for the time being for this exact reason.
Per FMC Execs & their own internal testing, drive train failures did not START to present themselves until at, or around, 720hp at the motor.
So the 6F55 Trans is fairly stout, but obviously limitations abound when one starts pushing it to it's outer extremes.
bpd1151 said:
AWESOME!
If I can get to 500 awhp, then thats all I would do. Wouldn't try for anymore. So figuring when/if I install meth kit that should get me pretty close.
But if I can or may ask, for those of us (me) without corporate sponsors and an LLC, whats the approximate investment a regular "Joe" would have to spend to get to where you are? I know it may be a little personal but curious. I was thinking rather presuming, in couple years, can pick up either a crate motor from Ford GT (<>$5000) or find one wrecked some where (<>$2000). Both of these should be near turn key engines. Then maybe another $2000 for any upgrades and fine tuning depending on which path is taken.
But for the salvage option I think the most expensive piece would be the heads and ecm to control everything. So even if engine mangled, only a few core pieces needed. Same block as current 3.5L but heads and fuel delivery.
Thoughts???
bpd1151
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Dxlnt1 said:
I have never, ever totaled up the amount I've put into my SHO. Why?
I invoke the "plausible deniability" factor whenever the Wife, or others, ask the same question(s).
Suffice to say, in order to maintain any semblance of longevity at the HP #'s you're desiring, you'll definitely want to harden the internals, and build around that outwards.
In closing, I got a chuckle out of your "Corporate Sponsorship, LLC" comment......
That's gotta be THE SINGLE biggest misnomer from various members here that I am somehow sponsored, or have taken money from any of the vendors who've worked on my car, or even funnier yet, that I've been on any of their payrolls.
None of it is true.
I have my annual W2's to vouch for that, as well as a Wife who constantly crabs about what I do to my car, as well as how much she perceives I spend on my car.
It's taken many long hours of overtime, coupled with me doing a fair amount of the labor, and this being literally my only hobby, which has gotten me to where I'm at with my SHO.
It takes Heart. Passion. Vision, and Perseverance I assure you.
bpd1151 said:
Ok, you got me there. I assumed you had some sponsorships. Because seems your car is front page of so many ground breaking feats.
Great job nonetheless. Even better since you gotta work a 9-5 to pay for it all.
I'll take anything I can get to feed my habits lol. But my mod breakdown is something like this...FoMoCoSHO said:
1. LMS tuner, Airraid, plugs, T-stat $600
2. Downpipes (include install) $1100
3. Stereo upgrade $2200
4. Tires/wheels $1300
Only other possible thing is the maybe the meth kit. There's a thread to start too.
sunwolf said:
Downpipes and X-pipe already 2 1/2". Just a 2 1/4 - 2 1/2" transition to X-pipe. Install cost me $300. Kept OEM exhaust and mufflers.
Mike has a set of PPE DP's to sell. You can probably order from him and save yourself the wait. But they are PPE downpipes.
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,4752.msg75270.html#msg75270
You are still limiting yourself in that 3 feet of 2.25" pipe between the downpipes and the x. After the x it all opens up and your restriction is gone but while I'm under there why not just fix that. Is my thinking right on this?Dxlnt1 said:
Also LME is an hour from my house so getting the pipes from them will be quicker as they have them in stock. I could also have them bring me a set to milan on saturday maybe.
sunwolf said:
And LME being local is sure a good thing. Its your money do as you please. But I think the stock system is fine for what most have. If I had bigger turbos AND meth AND my exhaust actually tuned via exhaust measurements then MAYBE I would go a full 2 1/2" But its a V6, twin turbo. Cant make it sound like a V8.
My car is NOT a race car. Nor is it a car that will see a lot of track time. There are other limits that will be hit before the exhaust is ever an issue, performance wise. Maybe for sound and note you can upsize. It may change some but for me I wanted to maintain a quiet car. NO RASPINESS. NO DRONE!. For me, it is not worth it. Besides if its truly flowing too freely then you may cause droning or lack of back pressure which could hurt performance.
Another option is dp's, cutout, finished off with OEM. Best of both worlds. Imho there is no catback worth any money on these cars because I think they all sound like crap.
Hopefully this setup will all be installed in the 2015 soon.
There are some fine sounding v6 engines.....BMW, Nissan, etc. I wonder what it is about ours that seemingly nothing improves the sound.
Hopefully this setup will all be installed in the 2015 soon.
There are some fine sounding v6 engines.....BMW, Nissan, etc. I wonder what it is about ours that seemingly nothing improves the sound.
