Are all you guys nuts? I have great traction!

[ajpturbo]

Sorry but I'm calling you guys out. You may not like this but I'm going to do it anyway.

I run my car pretty ragged at times. And you can see my sig below, I push it pretty hard. I've been reading here since I've joined about people saying how they have traction problems and spin a lot when they nail it from a dig. Even at a drag strip with a prepped track no less. Even with snow tires on, which suck, I nail it and hit 15-16 PSI in 1st gear and I will squeal all through 1st but to say I'm breaking free or spinning is wrong. I'm pulling very hard and wouldn't say I've blown a start or could've done better if I wasn't spinning. I think you all are mis-interpreting howling and barking tires as lighting up the tires.

I've watched your drag races and the people saying they have traction problems that are squealing are actually having really good starts. When they are howling you are just on the edge of the tires traction and that's right where you want to be.

Drive a 500-700HP mustang with street tires and then tell me about traction problems. I cannot light up the tires in the SHO at 16psi and snow tires on the street...Are you all rolling through the water box at the drag strip? You should drive around the water...If you hear howling stay in it, it's all good 

 

[SHOnUup]

I was at the track watching from 5 ft away as SHO after SHO spun the tires. I mean no grip at times. Somehow I've been able to nail some great 60's with the hated stock RSA'S.

Rich

 

[SHOnUup]

Have any 60' times AJ?

Rich

 

[SHOdded]

Ned some times and videos for analysis, AJ   Plus a dyno or something to see how much power/tq you are putting down.

 

[ajpturbo]

Ned some times and videos for analysis, AJ   Plus a dyno or something to see how much power/tq you are putting down.

All in due time..just waiting on the weather..trust me the power is there...from what I see u guys are pulling 1.7x-1.9 60'...not gonna really get any better than that with a stock converter...u just can't get the Rpm up high enough ...I was watching all the drag racing on the thread that was recently started and didn't see much spinning

 

[SHOnUup]

http://youtu.be/9vjt_VT1Dbw

Closest one was spinning bad

Rich

 

[Jtrain]

Well. I get traction in my Xsport. But the front of my car JERKS HARD during some gear shifts (Like to the right or left)

Makes me laugh at the "All wheel drive" I was sold on. Why bother putting 4% of the power to the rear-- call it what it is.

EDIT: Watched that video- we might need to discuss your definition of 'spinning bad'.

 

[SHOnUup]

Hard to tell in video...Notice car on right is way behind other...in person the tires were spinning so bad they didn't make noise.

Rich

 

[SHOnUup]

I start to say "he had a horrible launch" at end of video. Don't think he was lowering tire pressure though.

Rich

 

[SHOnUup]

I'll get what AJ mentioned above, a tire screaming as it eats of pavement...like on the edge of breaking loose, but not

Rich

 

[Jtrain]

If I launch the car depicted in my profile picture on street tires it will peg my RPMs because it's roasting the tires-- and I go no where but spend 1k on new rears. THAT'S no traction.

Spinning crappy stock tires that you haven't lowered the PSI on -- or you're just dumping the throttle down and roasting it on purpose... lol

This looks like something that can be fixed by launching differently, rolling into the throttle differently... lower psi... etc etc etc

 

[ajpturbo]

If I launch the car depicted in my profile picture on street tires it will peg my RPMs because it's roasting the tires-- and I go no where but spend 1k on new rears. THAT'S no traction.

Spinning crappy stock tires that you haven't lowered the PSI on -- or you're just dumping the throttle down and roasting it on purpose... lol

This looks like something that can be fixed by launching differently, rolling into the throttle differently... lower psi... etc etc etc

Well obviously...its a turbo g35 right?..of course it will roast them

 

[ElvenSho]

Not sure how your SHo's let you spin the tires. Mine will start to spin them for about 2 seconds and then falls flat on its face. (all the power goes away until traction is gained) Yes this is all happening with Traction control off. I do like the 2nd gear bark tho lol

 

[Dxlnt1]

I gotta say, the times I have read of people spinning their wheels I always thought my car must be seriously under powered. While Im no expert but I think it actual drag racing you want the car to be on the edge of the tires breaking free. Regardless of street tires or drag radials. If all four wheels spun once in complete revolution then the car hooked up, to me thats a GREAT launch. And the AWD SHO does that consistently. I have yet to see any video of any SHO actually smoking the tires. Even slightly spinning tires trying to do so only gets maybe 10 feet of wheel spin. Some can't remember who, did get the wheels to break loose a little but you would never get it past the length of the car. If so, then you must have that 600 plus hp Ford GT motor. And some hello reprogramming of the AWD system.

Just my .02 cents.

Where's my change? lol

 

[wasinger3000]

I do not think a sho would be able to roll smoke simply because it's traction control system is to hasty.

Only traction issues I have are the 1-2 shift, it struggles to figure out what it wants to do. Guess we can call it a mid shift crisis... hah.

 

[Courier6]

If I disable "advance-trac" ie. put the car in sport-mode with the gear selector in "S", I will generate wheel spin sufficient enough to generate the "Service Advance-Trac Soon" warning complete with associated codes which have to be cleared.

I have done this enough times to know I cannot use the the gear selector "S" at the strip, no 2 ways about it. The exact same thing would happen with my 2011.

 

[SHOnUup]

Mid shift crisis....haha, that's a good one

Rich

 

[Airbornemaikai]

I'd like to chime in and say the same goes for the Explorer Sport. No way to spin the tires without losing all the power, regardless of whether traction control is on or not, its just as ElvenSho said, it would fall on its face as I've had this happen if trying to brake boost much past 2k. Either go before the tires break loose, or call it a day

 

[ajpturbo]

I'm talking about with the traction control disabled and the Stabilitrakdisabled

 

[Airbornemaikai]

All we have in the X is traction control