BENDIX & WAGNER Rotors!

[ZSHO]

I was looking for a set of Rotors to compliment the newly acquired HAWK-5.0  Carbon Ferro-Carbon compound brake pads and found a couple of Good Quality Performance Rotors without having to break the bank..

The WAGNER Rotors are made from cast iron,while the BENDIX are made from ACP, Alloyed-Carbon Performance castings!
I believe Both Rotors have the Vane design feature which provides greater cooling capabilities @ a similar price point.  Z

Both Rotors Replace Original (OE) Part # DG1Z1125C

A precision cut finish of the outer diameter prevents improper balance issues that can result in a loss of vehicle control
A smooth finish aids in the proper seating of the friction resulting in less time needed for pad “break-in”
A unique vane design provides greater cooling capabilities resulting in increased stopping power and decreased noise, vibration and harshness
E-Shield coating is applied to all non-braking surfaces which prevents corrosion and is visually attractive
Tighter tolerance specifications reduce thickness variation and lateral run-out to ensure a balanced rotor that reduces pedal pulsation and extends pad life
Wagner utilizes a combination of premium grade iron, a stringent casting process and a controlled manufacturing environment which results in superior braking performance.

Bolt Circle Diameter (IN) 4.500
Construction Full Cast
Disc Finish Directional
Height (in) 1.850
Material Cast Iron
Nominal Thickness (in) 1.264
Outside Diameter (in) 13.858
Rust Resistant Coating Yes
Slotted No​

WAGNER BD180535E​

https://www.fme-cat.com/overlays/part-detail.aspx?brandId=WB&pNum=BD180535E&partType=Disc%20Brake%20Rotor

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=6439056&cc=1503823&jsn=541

The Bendix are madeBuilt to withstand severe duty performance demands with superior thermal stability and strength
SurfaceLok™ Coating is heat resistant and extends rotor life by limiting corrosion build-up
OEM driven machining specifications allow smooth pad-to-rotor contact, improving pedal response for safe driving in all conditions
Made from alloyed carbon performance rotor castings.

BENDIX SDR6201​

https://www.carid.com/bendix/fleet-metlok-premium-severe-duty-front-brake-rotor-mpn-sdr6201.html#specifications

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=7480876&cc=1503823&jsn=579

 

[Moisme33]

I have the bendix rotors on my SHO for the past 2000+ miles and have had no trouble at all. Helped stop me a few times this winter in Cleveland, Ohio. Plus there is a bendix plant about 25 minutes west of Cleveland so I figured I would support local haha.

 

[StinkinLinkin13]

Both solid choices.... I personally/professionally would go with Bendix.

 

[Agentlongwood]

I don't have experience with those brands, but I would throw EBC into the ring.  EBC does make blank rotors as well as the fancy looking slotted ones.  I like them because they are hard core about quality control.  Don't know if they tread into "Break the bank" territory, but I expect they'd be pricier than Bendix and Wagner, even for blank rotors.  Check it out, their page is interesting enough to read through.  I'm running their slotted rotors and pads.  https://ebcbrakes.com/product/premium-oe-rotors/

 

[ToMang07]

I've had Wagners warp on me.  Different car,  but IIRC they were only 2-3 years old. 

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[ZSHO]

I appreciate all the replies from above and after much research might go with the ACDELCO Specialty Police Rotors .Z
[18A2946PV]

Damped iron metallurgy reduces noise and dissipates heat
Enhanced vane configuration increases air flow, providing a consistent low temperature throughout the rotor
Fast recovery rate from friction heating after brakes have been applied
Significant reduction of brake fade at high temperatures
A polymer coating acts as armor against the elements to help reduce corrosion
Mill balanced to reduce vibration

Bolt Hole Quantity 5
Outside Diameter (in) 13.8
Slotted No
Bolt Circle Diameter (IN) 4.5
Construction Full Cast
Material Cast Iron
Nominal Thickness (in) 1.260
Surface Type Smooth
Height (in) 1.8
ABS Sensor Ring Included No
Solid Or Vented Type Rotor Vented
Lug Quantity 5

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Driving Style: Daily Driver, Hauling & Towing, Performance / Racing
Rotor Design: Rotors Only
Rotor Construction: 1-Piece
Rotor Style: Slotted
Rotor Material: Cast Iron
Rotor Finish: Turned
Rotor Type: Vented
Rotor Diameter: 345mm (13.58")
Rotor Height: 38.1mm (1.5")
Nominal Thickness: 18.999mm (0.748")
Lug Holes Quantity: 5
Bolt Circle: 114.3mm (4.5")

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake+&+wheel+hub,rotor,1896

 

[ZSHO]

New ACDelco Specialty Performance Rear Rotors arrived today safe and sound!    Still waiting for the Fronts. Z

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=9167072&cc=1503823&jsn=60

 

[SHOdded]

Vented rears, nice.

 

[r1crusher]

I'm now in need for new stoppers as the power stops I installed over 40k miles ago have finally gone bye bye.  I want to to a different route as I was please with the power stops except when they were cold.  I wonder how these rotors would work with a set of EBC Red pad.

 

[SHOdded]

If you want to go EBCs, skip red, go straight to Yellow (or Orange if available).

 

[ZSHO]

New Front Rotors arrived today safely snug as a bug. 
They seem pretty Beefy IMO and hopefully will have them installed by next week.  Z

 

[lamrith]

Cool looking rotors Z!  Be interesting to see how they do for you.

 

[mval]

interesting design as a fan of ebc slotted. i assume the cut outs are for better cooling,but wonder how the effect the integrity of the rotor. is the black mounting side will stay black, nice touch. unlike the ebc's that came in black but was on the surface & wore off immediately.

 

[ZSHO]

I'm hoping they perform as well as they look along with the Hawk 5.0 brake pads. I appreciate the kind words from ^^^. Z 

 

[r1crusher]

Hey Z...did you compare the 5.0 pads vs. the LTS?  If so why the decision to go with the 5.0?

Just looking at the pad characteristics it looks like the LTS would give you greater thermal range and minimally sacrifice some noise.  All the other characteristics were basically identical.

 

[ZSHO]

Hey Z...did you compare the 5.0 pads vs. the LTS?  If so why the decision to go with the 5.0?

Just looking at the pad characteristics it looks like the LTS would give you greater thermal range and minimally sacrifice some noise.  All the other characteristics were basically identical.

True indeed! I just wanted the newer version brake Pads on the market for comparison! Thanks.  Z

 

[ZSHO]

Brake Pad “Break in procedure for “Severe Duty” vehicles” Bulletin BPI 09-06

Subject: Brake Pad Burnishing
Vehicle Involved: Severe Duty applications, such as police service or before track testing
Condition: After replacing brake pads
Repair Procedure: When replacing brake pads, a “break-in” or “burnishing” procedure is recommended to properly condition both the brake pads and brake rotors for best service and long life.
The burnish process, if done correctly, does at least three things to the pads and/or the rotor:

1. Physically and thermally converts the composition of the pad and/or rotor surfaces.
2. Smoothes the asperities (roughness, unevenness) of the mating surfaces.
3. Heat cycles the entire pad structure.
For anticipated severe duty, such as police service, or before track testing, a more intensive burnish procedure should be performed.
This recommended procedure is:
• 8 moderate brake applications from 40 to 10 mph at approximately ¼-mile intervals.
• 8 somewhat harder brake applications from 60 to 10 mph at approximately ½-mile intervals.
• Drive 1.5 miles
• * 5 hard (but less than ABS) applications from 80 to 20 mph at 3/4-mile intervals. Drive at least two miles after last application.
• Allow brakes to cool at least 15 minutes either by parking the vehicle or continuing to drive at moderate speeds with minimal brake applications.

*If practical. If not, repeat the 60 to 10 mph section.
The brake friction materials and rotors are now ready for service.
Notes:
1. The “hard” applications do not need to be at precise deceleration rates as the amount of energy dissipated will be the same.
2. Some odor and smoke from the brakes is normal during and after the 60 and 80 mph sections.
3. Even after completion of this procedure some fade, odor, and smoke may occur initially if the vehicle is immediately subjected to hard high speed braking.


“Break in procedure for daily driver vehicles” Bulletin BPI 09-05

Subject: Brake Pad Burnishing
Vehicle Involved: All Normal “Street” vehicles
Condition: After replacing brake pads
Repair Procedure: When replacing brake pads, a “break-in” or “burnishing” procedure is recommended to properly condition both the brake pads and brake rotors for best service and long life.
The burnish process, if done correctly, does at least three things to the pads and/or the rotor:

1. Physically and thermally converts the composition of the pad and/or rotor surfaces.
2. Smoothes the asperities (roughness, unevenness) of the mating surfaces.
3. Heat cycles the entire pad structure.
For “normal” street service 8 to 10 moderate applications from 40-10 mph is sufficient. Then allow the brakes to cool for at least 15 minutes either by parking the vehicle or continuing to drive at moderate speeds with minimal brake applications.

“When replacing brakes, make sure to lubricate all necessary parts to help reduce noise and other issues. The inside of the brake box will identify all the necessary parts that need to be lubricated.”

 

[r1crusher]

I was quite interested in finding these same rotors but it would appear they have suddenly become difficult to come by.  I have found that Raybestos has some very similar rotors (680982PER and 680983PER) and they are more readily available.  Now I to decide on some decent performing pads.

Still looking forward to hearing how your setup performs, Z.

 

[ZSHO]

I was quite interested in finding these same rotors but it would appear they have suddenly become difficult to come by.  I have found that Raybestos has some very similar rotors (680982PER and 680983PER) and they are more readily available.  Now I to decide on some decent performing pads.

Still looking forward to hearing how your setup performs, Z.

The Raybestos is the best alternatives to the ACDELCO and are pretty much identical and have the same pattern designed with S-Groove slots.
No worries Kevin I'm currently installing the rears and will keep you updated on all counts. Z 

FRONT

$62.79  ea.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=8826148&cc=1503823&jsn=10542&jsn=10542

REARS

$41.79 ea

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=8826156&cc=1503823&jsn=10535&jsn=10535

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,brake+&+wheel+hub,rotor,1896

 

[Macgyver]

Yep I was thinking Raybestos all the way around for rotors and PP pads. Pad decision is way harder than the rotors thats for sure.