Beware all ecoboost owners!!!!!!!!

sholxgt said:
Any word about your car OP?

I have a cheapy OBD adapter that is wi-fi instead of bluetooth.  Didn't even notice when I bought it.  Had trouble getting it set up until I realized what was going on.

Mine would probably still be plugged into the port if it weren't for my tablet trying to connect to it instead of my router.  That was another head scratcher...figuring out why my tablet kept dropping connection in the house.  Turns out it was dropping my router and connecting to the OBD adapter in the car in the garage.  After reading this, I'm glad I was having the issue.  Forced me to unplug the thing when not in use.  Now I also know to not plug it in while the car is running just in case.
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Hmm i will need to play with this, I noticed the same thing with my phone, this may be why it fails on starts from home but not when I am in the city.
 
sholxgt said:
Any word about your car OP?

I have a cheapy OBD adapter that is wi-fi instead of bluetooth.  Didn't even notice when I bought it.  Had trouble getting it set up until I realized what was going on.

Mine would probably still be plugged into the port if it weren't for my tablet trying to connect to it instead of my router.  That was another head scratcher...figuring out why my tablet kept dropping connection in the house.  Turns out it was dropping my router and connecting to the OBD adapter in the car in the garage.  After reading this, I'm glad I was having the issue.  Forced me to unplug the thing when not in use.  Now I also know to not plug it in while the car is running just in case.
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Yes. New PCM will be in tomorrow morning and will hopefully be all finished and programmed by the end of the day! I swear its been in the shop longer than ive actually driven it. Lol.
 
Three's a charm..... any more bad mojo after this, is an indicator you need to sell it and never look back.

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Physical problem with the OBD port?  Is part of the OBD port or part of the adapter stuck in eachother?  Like one of them pulled a pin out from the other?
 
I'm guessing is the PCM fried or not? IMO this is somehow related to the security aspect of the vehicle preventing you from starting her up,need to check all the fuses under the drivers side dash related to the immobilization features,transceiver and probably a new key as mentioned a while back...also check the fuse on the BJB  pictured here, .Z 
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  BTW the PCM is NOT communicating with the BJB and also the PCM needs to correlate with the BCM for PCM wakeup to function.    http://www.tascaparts.com/auto-parts/2011/ford/flex/limited-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/electrical-cat/anti-theft-components-scat  Main fuse on BJB  http://www.tascaparts.com/ford/flex/f87z14526aa/2011-year/limited-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/electrical-cat/fuse-and-relay-scat/?part_name=main-fuse
 
sholxgt said:
Physical problem with the OBD port?  Is part of the OBD port or part of the adapter stuck in eachother?  Like one of them pulled a pin out from the other?
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i just called them and told them to check that
 
FoMoCoSHO said:
Flexthis2011EB said:
Ford called and said new pcm isnt responding either. Any clues????? Ive about had it
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What exactly does that mean?

No power?

Power but no communication?
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They just said its not communicating. So i said "then it must not be the pcm, so once u figure out the problem put my old pcm back as im not paying for the new one." They didnt like that too much but im not paying for something that wasnt the problem.
 
So i guess my next question is do i have to pay that $1500 for diag and r and r of pcm if that wasnt even the damn problem? And should i have to continue to pay $137 an hour for further diagnostic when i thought they already did all that!??
 
I think Z had some good advice as well.  Between the security system, PATS, and the wireless communication necessary between the key fob and ECU something could be a miss.  Lots of communication has to work in order to make the car go.
 
Flexthis2011EB said:
So i guess my next question is do i have to pay that $1500 for diag and r and r of pcm if that wasnt even the damn problem? And should i have to continue to pay $137 an hour for further diagnostic when i thought they already did all that!??
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I would not pay for a PCM if it's not the problem.  As for the labor portion, you're kind of stuck on that, but the dealer needs to work with you since it's sounding like a mis-diagnosis.

Good luck!!!
 
sholxgt said:
Flexthis2011EB said:
So i guess my next question is do i have to pay that $1500 for diag and r and r of pcm if that wasnt even the damn problem? And should i have to continue to pay $137 an hour for further diagnostic when i thought they already did all that!??
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I would not pay for a PCM if it's not the problem.  As for the labor portion, you're kind of stuck on that, but the dealer needs to work with you since it's sounding like a mis-diagnosis.

Good luck!!!
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Ok. I 100% agree with that. And thank u. Will keep yall posted.
 
Flexthis2011EB said:
So i guess my next question is do i have to pay that $1500 for diag and r and r of pcm if that wasnt even the damn problem? And should i have to continue to pay $137 an hour for further diagnostic when i thought they already did all that!??
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This is coming from a master certified Ford advisor...

It depends...

There's still a lot of unknowns...And they don't yet know the underlying condition.

A few things that could be going on...

The DLC power fuse...She said make sure they check this as it is the most common and least expensive issue.

They are missing something simple like the fuse and relay for the PCM

There is some wiring cooked due to the OBD scanner...

The scanner pulled a pin(s) out of your diag port...

The PCM backfed into the other modules and took out everything, the instrument cluster, BCM, and PCM.

Now before you panic she also said the last option is very rare as these systems are typically very good at self protection.

Bottom line though, if your PCM is good, then no you should not have to pay for it as they did not exercise due diligence and get you a proper diagnosis. They should eat the first diag fee and just start you over and charge you based on actually finding the problem.
 
keys and pats could still work even with a fried pcm. flex/mkt have a radio security computer installed above/behind the glove box it has five or six plugs  with yellow security levers they come from supplier with corresponding keys rubber banded to them. just glancing over this thread it sounds like that's what fried, or has limited function . your locks and security are between that box and the BCM. i'd be looking into RFA (radio frequency something) or communication between the rfa and bcm or the fuse. I'd link a schematic but they wont load on my personal computer. to program a new rfa with IDS takes like 20 minutes just for the computer to gain security access other than that the car is basically a brick. 
 
Maybe should have mementioned this but im redoing the headliner. Could this have something to do with it?  I mean if it does its not like ford cant clearly see the headliner is missing. And also this didnt happen until around 4 days after i removed the HL.
 
aFlexthis2011EB said:
Maybe should have mementioned this but im redoing the headliner. Could this have something to do with it?  I mean if it does its not like ford cant clearly see the headliner is missing. And also this didnt happen until around 4 days after i removed the HL.
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FYI that should of been mentioned on your first post and NOT left for last ....Jesus. BTW any other additional mods you have to add on besides the boost gauges and when did you install them now?  Z
 
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