BoostfoSHO 2015 SHO Build thread!

[BoostfoSHO]

What's up everyone. I git a 15 SHO PP about 3 months and the first month and half it spent it at the dealership with a blown rear differential. Took 2 trips to the dealership first they replaced the entire steering assembly and it didn't fix the issue, even though I had told the tech it was the rear diff binding together he ignored my diagnosis. So I went to another dealer and they listened and found the rear diff full of shavings and missing teeth. So they replaced all the rear drive unit.

Now I've had the car back for about 3 weeks finally and so far i have installed

Air raid intake
3bar map
OBX downpipes
160tstat
And tuned by AJP Turbo

Waiting to be installed is
a snow meth kit stage 2
electric exhaust cutouts
MSD ignition coils
Colder sparkplugs

I painted the chrome in the front grill and the rear red with some plastidip and i hated it so I took it off. Found a less colorful red and tried again. So far I'm leaving it but I think I'm gonna go with a black.

Any comments or tips are welcomed.

Thank you all.

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[ZSHO]

Welcome aboard the E.B.P.F BoostfoSHO!  Nice looking SHO and truly glad to have you on board.  Z  :WELCOME:
I do love Red as you can tell but would honestly go with the black trim instead.

 

[BoostfoSHO]

Welcome aboard the E.B.P.F BoostfoSHO!  Nice looking SHO and truly glad to have you on board.  Z  :WELCOME:

Thank you very much. Looking forward to being a million question asker lol

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[ZSHO]

Welcome aboard the E.B.P.F BoostfoSHO!  Nice looking SHO and truly glad to have you on board.  Z  :WELCOME:

Thank you very much. Looking forward to being a million question asker lol

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Shoot!. Z 

 

[SHOdded]

Welcome aboard!!!

 

[f8tlSHO]

+1 for ajp!!! Yeah black also I agree


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[PDSHO]

Greetings from another Newb.

Greg

 

[BoostfoSHO]

Does anyone know if it's necessary to plug a vacuum hose to the Tial BOV? I traded them and don't have instructions. Also do I need to change the springs if I'm boosting a bit more from a tune ?

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[ZSHO]

Does anyone know if it's necessary to plug a vacuum hose to the Tial BOV? I traded them and don't have instructions. Also do I need to change the springs if I'm boosting a bit more from a tune ?

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DO NOT DRIVE it without properly connecting a vacuum Hose!
What spring rate do you have ? color ?  Z

 

[BoostfoSHO]

Ok, I've been driving without it already. The guy I traded said he never put his on and drove withouth it.
I'll make sure to put one on today then.
Do you know about the spring inside and it's boost limits?

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[BoostfoSHO]

I don't know. I never opened it. I installed it as soon as I got them, I'm assuming it's the default one from EPP.

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[ZSHO]

Ok, I've been driving without it already. The guy I traded said he never put his on and drove withouth it.
I'll make sure to put one on today then.
Do you know about the spring inside and it's boost limits?

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I would not worry about the Spring rate @ the moment but would be more concerned
about finding the correct source for vacuum reference for the Tial BOV!
What spring rate do you have?  any idea what color of the actual spring ?
It's probably a -10 psi spring rate with the Tial BOV IIRC.

Feel Free to start a new Thread.  Z

 

[BoostfoSHO]

Ok I'll see about opening it later today to check it out.
Thank you.

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[derfdog15]

Ok, I've been driving without it already. The guy I traded said he never put his on and drove withouth it.
I'll make sure to put one on today then.
Do you know about the spring inside and it's boost limits?

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Oh lord. No wonder it had a blown rear diff. That guy did NOT know how to treat that car. There should be a line from that port on top of the tial to a MAP reference. You can either get the reference from the brake booster (near the rear left of the engine). Alternatively, on the hot pipes you have, there is a small plug, with an allen head (that takes 1/8" NPT threaded bungs) located right underneath the map sensor. Get yourself a few hose fittings to put in that location (my recommendation is a 45 degree, into a barb, or a 90 degree into a barb) and then from that a small 1/4" diameter hose to the tial. Alternatively there are MAP adapters, like this: http://www.stage3motorsports.com/TS-0720-1005-2013-2016-F150-3-5L-EcoBoost-Turbosmart-MAP-Sensor-Boost-Reference-Adapter.html

The MAP adapter will not allow for the engine cover to be put in place however.

There is a lot more in this thread of mine than you need, but post #109 has a few pictures of the connection I recommend, to the bung under the MAP sensor on that Tial Q 50mm. You should have either a -10 or -8 spring in place, it comes with a -10 from Eco Power Parts. Myself and ZSHO went to the -8 for better response.

The following chart has the correct colors, etc. A new spring is ~$30 bucks, but it can be a bit of a pain to swap them, or to check them. Also, you need to be very careful opening the tial up, as the spring is under extreme pressure and it can take an eye out, or worse. http://www.tialsport.com/documents/w3_tial_qqr_sp.pdf

Let us know if you have any further questions!

 

[BoostfoSHO]

Do you think I need to change the spring ? Is it common to change them if you're tuned?

Edit: i just read your last post, thank you for the information

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[derfdog15]

Do you think I need to change the spring ? Is it common to change them if you're tuned?

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I never ran my car with the -10, I swapped to the -8 before I started, based on the recommendation I saw from ZSHO and another member or two at that time. Many people have been fine with the -10. You can use the chart I linked (http://www.tialsport.com/documents/w3_tial_qqr_sp.pdf) to see your resting vacuum. Using your tuner you can get an idea of the vacuum value at idle, or if you have a boost gauge it is even easier. The main difference between the -10 and the -8 is the response of the BOV. The -10 is set for a slightly higher amount of vacuum so it opens slightly later. The -8 looks for slightly lower vacuum and opens quicker.

EDIT: You may actually want to get a straight 1/8" NPT to 1/4" hose barb for the port I mentioned. (something like this: https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/69920)

Alternatively you can get an 1/8" NPT to 1/4" NPT straight fitting, with a coupler (female 1/4" on both sides), and then 1/4" NPT to hose barb with a 45 or 90 degree angle depending on how you feel about routing the hose.  A 45 or 90 degree would have been easier for what I did, but it wouldnt clear the MAP sensor hence the need for the straight extension.

 

[BoostfoSHO]

Ok, I've been driving without it already. The guy I traded said he never put his on and drove withouth it.
I'll make sure to put one on today then.
Do you know about the spring inside and it's boost limits?

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Oh lord. No wonder it had a blown rear diff. That guy did NOT know how to treat that car. There should be a line from that port on top of the tial to a MAP reference. You can either get the reference from the brake booster (near the rear left of the engine). Alternatively, on the hot pipes you have, there is a small plug, with an allen head (that takes 1/8" NPT threaded bungs) located right underneath the map sensor. Get yourself a few hose fittings to put in that location (my recommendation is a 45 degree, into a barb, or a 90 degree into a barb) and then from that a small 1/4" diameter hose to the tial. Alternatively there are MAP adapters, like this: http://www.stage3motorsports.com/TS-0720-1005-2013-2016-F150-3-5L-EcoBoost-Turbosmart-MAP-Sensor-Boost-Reference-Adapter.html

The MAP adapter will not allow for the engine cover to be put in place however.

There is a lot more in this thread of mine than you need, but post #109 has a few pictures of the connection I recommend, to the bung under the MAP sensor on that Tial Q 50mm. You should have either a -10 or -8 spring in place, it comes with a -10 from Eco Power Parts. Myself and ZSHO went to the -8 for better response.

The following chart has the correct colors, etc. A new spring is ~$30 bucks, but it can be a bit of a pain to swap them, or to check them. Also, you need to be very careful opening the tial up, as the spring is under extreme pressure and it can take an eye out, or worse. http://www.tialsport.com/documents/w3_tial_qqr_sp.pdf

Let us know if you have any further questions!

I already have that boost reference adapter sitting in my garage with the wastegate mod since I haven't installed it...  could use that BRA to the BOV and just plug it where the 3bar map sensor goes?

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[ZSHO]

Jesus Don't worry about the Spring rate rather Focus on getting the proper source for vacuum reference as suggested by me and Derfdog!

Did you ever wonder why the seller of the Tial BOV/Hotpipes was such in a rush to sell the parts!!!!!!!!!!!!
FYI might have to move this Topic.  Z

 

[BoostfoSHO]

I traded my stock pipes for the hot ones from shohard on this forum. He was trading his car in all stock...

I got the BRA so if I understood correctly I can use that and just place it under the 3bar map on the manifold. I don't care if the engine cover can't be placed back on. I already have it off.

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[ajpturbo]

Bov spring rates are based on vacuum..boost really doesn’t matter...now if you are talking about the spring in the wastegate mod for the intake that will matter when it comes to boost...springs for bov are pretty standard as most normal road cars will idle somewhere around 15-20 inhg vac