Carbon buildup

They also advocated cleanings to be done regularly at 15K to 20K mile intervals (I guess BG-type GDI-specific services) to avoid any chances of meteorite activity inside the engine.  Now if we could lay down good percentages to figure out risk vs reward (rather than "I don't want to be the odd man out, so I am doing it"), that would be nice.  Especially since one of the advocated "continuous" solutions (i.e., catch can) remains inconsistent in its' results.
 
BiGMaC said:
Good read... thanks Manu.  It also clarifies the new 3.5 GDI with a parallel set of MP injectors as Ford is using in the new Ford GT.

Could it simply be the extra MP injectors are nothing more than a necessity for additional fuel to get the power output vs. the need to keep carbon deposits down?  Seems like the former would logically outweigh the latter...just food for thought is all.
 
r1crusher said:
BiGMaC said:
Good read... thanks Manu.  It also clarifies the new 3.5 GDI with a parallel set of MP injectors as Ford is using in the new Ford GT.

Could it simply be the extra MP injectors are nothing more than a necessity for additional fuel to get the power output vs. the need to keep carbon deposits down?  Seems like the former would logically outweigh the latter...just food for thought is all.

Possible... They haven't disclosed many details yet.
However, Mike's SHO makes 600+ AWHP with factory fuel system and meth injection (Dan Millen Dynotune)...The Ford GT is 600 CHP which is only about 500 RWHP... So the factory system can support that much power...The article Manu posted suggests that being able to spray fuel (even if only under a particular set of circumstances is a help for the carbon coking of intake valves making fuel additive cleaning useful.
 
BiGMaC said:
Possible... They haven't disclosed many details yet.
However, Mike's SHO makes 600+ AWHP with factory fuel system and meth injection (Dan Millen Dynotune)...The Ford GT is 600 CHP which is only about 500 RWHP... So the factory system can support that much power...The article Manu posted suggests that being able to spray fuel (even if only under a particular set of circumstances is a help for the carbon coking of intake valves making fuel additive cleaning useful.

I didn't take the time to read the entire lengthy article nor have I looked or been privy to what some guys are making using the stock fueling...so thank you for that information.  It would just seem odd for Ford to do that to the GT simply to keep the valves from coking up instead of just needing the extra fuel.  That to me would indicate that Ford engineers are seeing something that they're not telling the GP (general public :) ).

Again, thanks for that info.  I think I'm going do some more reading and possibly even take a poke at checking and cleaning out the IC.  Tomorrow would be a good day since it'll be near 70 degrees here in Cinci.
 
It is entirely possible that Ford will crank up power 2x for its' racing applications.  We have yet to hear about the limits of this setup (700 CHP is the rumored factory limit of the current stock 3.5EB setup, at least for the SHO).
 
SHOdded said:
It is entirely possible that Ford will crank up power 2x for its' racing applications.  We have yet to hear about the limits of this setup (700 CHP is the rumored factory limit of the current stock 3.5EB setup, at least for the SHO).
Granted new pistons, piston rods, deadbolts, etc, but if we look at Mike's... 617 AWHP + (.2 x 617) = 740.4 CHP ... so that's likely close.
 
anthonylee337 said:
By the way-I have 6 dealerships within 10 miles of my house that offers this cleaning and none of them are Ford service centers! Makes you wonder

But....all 3 Ford dealers in MY area ARE BG service centers, and I had my dealer do the BG Fuel service on my SHO on my last oil change (at about 45k miles) seemed to smooth things out and my MPG bumped up a bit. SO....just because no locals does not mean no Ford dealers will do it. Next oil change I am going to have them do the driveline service including the PTU...
 
Here's a video before and after the BG service that I took awhile back.
http://youtu.be/Obg9QmIaCGc

http://youtu.be/8fnPAqxNQKo
 
I apologize for being a little bit off topic here but after installing just the RX cleanside oil seperator which is vented,and more than 500 miles removed the RX oil cap after the car was sitting about 4hrs or so,noticed oil coming out of it which i guess is a good thing.
 
glock-coma said:
I'll take another video soon to show if there's any difference after a few thousand miles.
Man, I watched those in hopes of a miracle cleanse. The stems looked to be the only thing cleaned in the process...?

How much fluid was in the CAC you think? I've only measured mine by sticking the oil dip stick in from our truck, only showed about 3/8".

Rich

 
Here's a video of draining the intercooler I took around the same time.
After all was said and done I got about 9 oz out. I'll be doing this again soon also.
http://youtu.be/LDvJwq7HXCc
 
glock-coma said:
Here's a video of draining the intercooler I took around the same time.
After all was said and done I got about 9 oz out. I'll be doing this again soon also.
http://youtu.be/LDvJwq7HXCc
Which side or the intercooler did you go in on?
 
That is the passenger side. Where the TB to cac tube is.

I actually jacked up the the drivers side to get the oil the flow to the passenger side
 
glock-coma said:
That is the passenger side. Where the TB to cac tube is.

I actually jacked up the the drivers side to get the oil the flow to the passenger side
I put my oil dipstick in on that side and had nothing show up. Tired to get my little usb camera in to see but couldn't make the bend.
 
I did the same at first.
But once I jacked up the drivers side everything that was in between the fins and on the drivers side came flowing over.
 
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