Crossing fingers. Car in the shop for parts swapping..

TopherSho

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Took the car in this morning.  I am going to have them replace the Wastegates, the wastegate controller cable thingy, and the solenoid to fix the over boosting\uncontrolled boosting Brad saw.

Also doing both the primary O2 sensors  ..

/crossed fingers/ xx
 
I would say the wide-Band 02 sensor is a common fault especially being a My2010!!.
It probably needs changing without compromise IMO.
Best of luck and keep us updated.  Z
 
ZSHO said:
I would say the wide-Band 02 sensor is a common fault especially being a My2010!!.
It probably needs changing without compromise IMO.
Best of luck and keep us updated.  Z

Wideband = Primary O2 ? or did i miss a part to add ?
 
TopherSho said:
ZSHO said:
I would say the wide-Band 02 sensor is a common fault especially being a My2010!!.
It probably needs changing without compromise IMO.
Best of luck and keep us updated.  Z

Wideband = Primary O2 ? or did i miss a part to add ?
Primary 02 sensors = wide-band!  Z
 
The primary o2s in obdii systems are precat and used for the actual work the engine does.  The secondary or postcat sensors are minions of the EPA lol, monitoring efficiency of the cats.  So the secondaries need not be wideband, do not sample as often, and are usually cheaper than the primaries.
 
Update#1
as expected, Ford has no clue.  Were replacing the O2's today and the full boost-solenoid + boost control connectors + all the hoses attached next week.

as expected the wastegates are non-replaceable according to ford and are 750$ each. 

So we ill replace the O2 and the boost control bits and cross more fingers.  trying to be positive but have a sinking feeling i'm still in for more work and another 1600$
 
Squid has been ordered.  (Boost solenoid + all hoses + both electronic wastegate controller cables.)  for is taking forever to get my **** ... sigh

tbc ..
 
TopherSho said:
Squid has been ordered.  (Boost solenoid + all hoses + both electronic wastegate controller cables.)  for is taking forever to get my s*** ... sigh

tbc ..
I just got my car sorted since turbo first failed in april. Ford can take forever. Is this all out of pocket? I'd consider different wastegates if you end up replacing them. That price sounds pretty high, is it parts only cost?

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Yeah out of pocket.  because there are no codes.. the Route66 insurance folks wont cover costs.    As to the wastegates, ford does not replace them,  only the full turbo. 

To be honest i was not shocked by the waste-gate being a full turbo replacement. keeping two bins full of parts is more costly than one bin full of more expensive parts.  and on average i bet these tiny little turbos eat themselves way more often than just blowing out a wastegate.

since it will be out of pocket for the turbos if it comes down to that,  I will see about having a speed shop do it and drop in ATPS.. no sense in going better and bigger for about 200$ more. 


 
TopherSho said:
Yeah out of pocket.  because there are no codes.. the Route66 insurance folks wont cover costs.    As to the wastegates, ford does not replace them,  only the full turbo. 

To be honest i was not shocked by the waste-gate being a full turbo replacement. keeping two bins full of parts is more costly than one bin full of more expensive parts.  and on average i bet these tiny little turbos eat themselves way more often than just blowing out a wastegate.

since it will be out of pocket for the turbos if it comes down to that,  I will see about having a speed shop do it and drop in ATPS.. no sense in going better and bigger for about 200$ more.

Well.. not the boost solenoid.. replaced it + hoses + electronic wastgate cables. 

No joy

 
the ford shop manager has agreed to do a IDs mobile log.  So he/they can see the behavior first hand on their own system.. its going to be wastegates .. but i'd like to hear them say that before i tell the wife  i need 1600$
 
ZSHO said:
How about the primary 02 sensors! Z

We did them 1st as Brad noted he was seeing the o2 readings 'flatline' .. i have not looked at the stft's but i am sure they are fine now. 

We need to find and solve the overboost issue before i loose my mind... being patient is REALLY hard for me.
 
TopherSho said:
Anyone else have any thoughts on overboosting without error codes besides bad wastegates .. ? 

My issue was an underboost with no codes, but was most likely due to the wastegates. I changed the solenoid, no change. Swapped back to OE hotpipes, no change. Played with tune changes, nothing. it had to have been a bad wastegate or turbo.

Good luck!
 
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