Dealer warranty?

[sholxgt]

IMO, more are failing than should, but I do see similar things on other auto related forums for other brands as well.

Except maybe Honda forums in the past.  I joined a Fit forum in 2008.  I think it was darn near 2012 before I saw the first motor replaced.  It seems to be getting more common however with the newer Fits.

I suspect we will start seeing many more Honda failures though now that they have made the switch to DI and turbo for many models.

Edited to add that I was a heavy participant in a Nissan forum from 2002 to about 2005.  Motor failures were very common.  To the point that I started picking up failed motors cheaply just to play around with.

 

[Gjkrisa]

Is it me or is the 3.5 ECO twin not that durable? Or is it people post negative things in forums so that is what we see?

How many SHO etc 3.5's Twin Turbos are there and how many are failing I guess is what I am saying.

The service guy said it could of been just bad parts i do feel my whole car was put together on a Friday i had a broken clip on the center console and rear driver side chrome panel was put on poorly but i was to excited to have the car finally that i just decided to fix it later.

But i think what caused the issue was too low octane but i had never got a check engine light or codes by manually scanning for anything so i have no idea how the engine tech got any.

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[StealBlueSHO]

Is it me or is the 3.5 ECO twin not that durable? Or is it people post negative things in forums so that is what we see?

How many SHO etc 3.5's Twin Turbos are there and how many are failing I guess is what I am saying.

Not many on a percentage basis... on these forums you hear about it more because

A: people on here modify the living crap out them
B: people usually come to forums when there is
something not right looking for answers




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[StealBlueSHO]

Is it me or is the 3.5 ECO twin not that durable? Or is it people post negative things in forums so that is what we see?

How many SHO etc 3.5's Twin Turbos are there and how many are failing I guess is what I am saying.

The service guy said it could of been just bad parts i do feel my whole car was put together on a Friday i had a broken clip on the center console and rear driver side chrome panel was put on poorly but i was to excited to have the car finally that i just decided to fix it later.

But i think what caused the issue was too low octane but i had never got a check engine light or codes by manually scanning for anything so i have no idea how the engine tech got any.

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Some scan tools won't pick up pending DTCs and Ford has IDS...

Low octane would have been giving you a ton of KR. Might be time to invest in a better scan tool if you are going to continue modding?


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[SHOdded]

Wonder if weather had a role to play.  We DID have a SHO go out rather dramatically in AK before ...

 

[Gjkrisa]

Is it me or is the 3.5 ECO twin not that durable? Or is it people post negative things in forums so that is what we see?

How many SHO etc 3.5's Twin Turbos are there and how many are failing I guess is what I am saying.

The service guy said it could of been just bad parts i do feel my whole car was put together on a Friday i had a broken clip on the center console and rear driver side chrome panel was put on poorly but i was to excited to have the car finally that i just decided to fix it later.

But i think what caused the issue was too low octane but i had never got a check engine light or codes by manually scanning for anything so i have no idea how the engine tech got any.

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Some scan tools won't pick up pending DTCs and Ford has IDS...

Low octane would have been giving you a ton of KR. Might be time to invest in a better scan tool if you are going to continue modding?


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I have logs what does bad kr look like?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BySleg7SM4KcMzJ2Wl9LcThNSDA/view?usp=drivesdk

I drove it like this probably for a month a light should have came on although most trips are only couple miles.

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[Gjkrisa]

Wonder if weather had a role to play.  We DID have a SHO go out rather dramatically in AK before ...

Oh yeah who was that? I have always had the car plugged in the winter and ran for 20 minutes before going anywhere in the winter.
Maybe it's sticking with  motorcraft oil that did it?

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[SHOdded]

Dont know if he's on the forum anymore ...  But i dont think the oil is to blame.  Yes you warmed up the engine for 20 min before driving it, that's good :thumb:  But this time is also considered under special operating conditions, and the OCI would be correspondingly short.  How many miles ago was the last oil change?  Mind you, i still expect increased block wear from these conditions, not failed bearings.

 

[Gjkrisa]

Dont know if he's on the forum anymore ...  But i dont think the oil is to blame.  Yes you warmed up the engine for 20 min before driving it, that's good :thumb:  But this time is also considered under special operating conditions, and the OCI would be correspondingly short.  How many miles ago was the last oil change?  Mind you, i still expect increased block wear from these conditions, not failed bearings.

Following Ford's recommend oil change it had another 4k before needing changed had just recently changed it beginning of July

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[StealBlueSHO]

Just looked at the log.. not sure which program that from? But your OAR is pegged at -1 which is good.. if you were knocking a ton, it would have started going up...

Maybe just a fluke engine failure? Dunno...Glad its fixed!

 

[Macgyver]

Not many on a percentage basis... on these forums you hear about it more because

A: people on here modify the living crap out them
B: people usually come to forums when there is
something not right looking for answers

Thats what I figured. But since this thread was leaning towards an unexpected failure. I figured I would ask. Plan on keeping my 2015 SHO for a while.

 

[Gjkrisa]

Just looked at the log.. not sure which program that from? But your OAR is pegged at -1 which is good.. if you were knocking a ton, it would have started going up...

Maybe just a fluke engine failure? Dunno...Glad its fixed!

Using torque pro soon going to throw my old HTC m8 for full time logging till i can get a programmer this winter mainly for logging.
Is it engine temp that's making the oar go up to -1 I'm surprised how long it takes the number to get there

Thank you for letting me know that is that the number one you would look just so i don't have lots of things recording to keep the stream fast i took a lot off my display also because it noticed it was going too slow

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[Gjkrisa]

Have many people used high detergent gas like Chevron I was thinking that may have degraded my oil to much so from now on going with ams oil.

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[SHOdded]

Have not heard of personal anecdotes of such issues using Chevron gas, or any name brand premium fuel for that matter.  Maybe over an extended OCI?

Recently FoMoCo pointed out that pure gasoline with no additives was tested to be LSPI event free, so who knows!  Switching to a high E blend fuel may indeed be the answer.

 

[ZSHO]

@-Gjkrisa Full synthetic or conventional motor oil ?  Z

 

[Gjkrisa]

Full synthetic

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[sholxgt]

My full synthetic motorcraft oil didn't test so well at 6,000 miles.  Have since backed down to 5,000 mile intervals and Mobil1 Extended oil.

How many miles and what oil have you been running?

 

[Gjkrisa]

My full synthetic motorcraft oil didn't test so well at 6,000 miles.  Have since backed down to 5,000 mile intervals and Mobil1 Extended oil.

How many miles and what oil have you been running?

It was at 12k first oil change was at 3k then the second at 10k odometer reading 400 hrs on the motor.

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[SHOdded]

I wouldnt go over 100 hours with mostly short trips/idling/stopngo.  Def not over 200 for mostly/all highway/loner trips.

 

[Gjkrisa]

I wouldnt go over 100 hours with mostly short trips/idling/stopngo.  Def not over 200 for mostly/all highway/loner trips.

Typically when an engine does alot of idling every 300 hrs but I had changed the oil sooner then that it was 400 hrs total engine life at the 10k

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