nickstewartroc said:
That’s exactly what I was thinking.StinkinLinkin13 said:"The software would stop catalytic converters, particulate filters and other emissions controls from working." - 13 ABC News
Not exactly how it works...
StealBlueSho said:
Journalism in general is not about reporting facts or truth anymore and it is more about headlines and being "1st to print", facts be damned.StinkinLinkin13 said:"The software would stop catalytic converters, particulate filters and other emissions controls from working." - 13 ABC News
Not exactly how it works...
Yes and no. Not updating your SCT will work if you never need anything further done, in which case having the tuner still is of little use.nickstewartroc said:
lamrith said:Journalism in general is not about reporting facts or truth anymore and it is more about headlines and being "1st to print", facts be damned.StinkinLinkin13 said:"The software would stop catalytic converters, particulate filters and other emissions controls from working." - 13 ABC News
Not exactly how it works...
You are completely correct, the programmer does not stop them from functioning, but it allows them to be removed, which is the same thing right?<sarc>. What the article should have said is that "The software allows the disabling of sensors which allow the removal of cats, filters, etc, etc"
Yes and no. Not updating your SCT will work if you never need anything further done, in which case having the tuner still is of little use.nickstewartroc said:
The problem will come if you continue to tune after the "fix" firmware is pushed out, or in the future need a tune updated. The tuners will be required to be using the newer firmware's and that will mean to get retuned you will also have to upgrade to runt he new tune they send you. People have run into this with some of the tuning Co we all love here, were a firmware revision "broke" a tune and the vehicle owner had to reflash car to stock tune, update SCT firmware, then upload the new tune to car. POOF there goes your catless DP tune you have had for the last 3 years...
Yeah the possibility is their to do just that. However I would think the risk is far to great. I do not see him or any tuner doing that. I seem to recall a year ago or so one of the tuners was directly approached by EPA and told cease and desist removing O2's in tunes. I know I would never risk the penalties/downside repurcussions to a business of doing it.TopherSho said:lamrith said:Journalism in general is not about reporting facts or truth anymore and it is more about headlines and being "1st to print", facts be damned.StinkinLinkin13 said:"The software would stop catalytic converters, particulate filters and other emissions controls from working." - 13 ABC News
Not exactly how it works...
You are completely correct, the programmer does not stop them from functioning, but it allows them to be removed, which is the same thing right?<sarc>. What the article should have said is that "The software allows the disabling of sensors which allow the removal of cats, filters, etc, etc"
Yes and no. Not updating your SCT will work if you never need anything further done, in which case having the tuner still is of little use.nickstewartroc said:
The problem will come if you continue to tune after the "fix" firmware is pushed out, or in the future need a tune updated. The tuners will be required to be using the newer firmware's and that will mean to get retuned you will also have to upgrade to runt he new tune they send you. People have run into this with some of the tuning Co we all love here, were a firmware revision "broke" a tune and the vehicle owner had to reflash car to stock tune, update SCT firmware, then upload the new tune to car. POOF there goes your catless DP tune you have had for the last 3 years...
Yeah this is tough. Those with the tuning suit can opt to not update the tuning suite but then there out of tuning new cars. Or having two laptops/desktops with old software and new software that is compliant.
Like for Brad, He *could* keep the *current* SCT Advantage III software and dongle on laptop-a. This would allow for current and older tuning jobs with full access. On machine-b the new restricted software. Its a pain but doable.
What I am curious about is this, how many 'full tune+disable' jobs are done versus light mods jobs. I have cats and os's, So i am 'ok' ...i think.. but how many jobs does Brad do that involve disabling EPA mandated thingies? If it is a 2:10 ratio or something like that he can keep working at a profit and for fun but be able to do deep projects on OEM cars.
/spitballing done/
! Leave our performance upgrades and tunes alone! Makes me think of a hall monitor blowing a whistle and saying, No running! Shut the ***k up!