Future exhaust plans
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I just hope no one orders the Stage 3 (stainless works)catted DP cause those will set off a code in a heartbeat,due to the poor quality cats and as mentioned earlier the bung is on the wrong side of the piping which preferably a welder is going to charge an extra fee to relocate and cover up the existing hole,with the extra labor,fee you can add on top of that cheap price of the DP which ultimatly at the end it wont be cheap anymore. Z BTW wish they invested some more time on better cats or better yet update the bung hole for the o2 rather than focus on there logo on the DP .
I'm sure stainless works will correct it ..it's just a shame they didn't take it seriously when I called and others called but that's there problem now.
And the check engine light has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the cats...in fact they are probably higher flowing than any of the other catted piped if they throw a cel so easily which I don't know that they do for sure..
If they throw a cel it's because they are less dense in material. They could be 400 cell per inch which would mean they flow more but are less efficient at cleaning emissions than a 600 cell per inch cat
And the check engine light has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the cats...in fact they are probably higher flowing than any of the other catted piped if they throw a cel so easily which I don't know that they do for sure..
If they throw a cel it's because they are less dense in material. They could be 400 cell per inch which would mean they flow more but are less efficient at cleaning emissions than a 600 cell per inch cat
Thats the reason i changed them in the first place because of the cheap quality cats to go along with there cheap price,after two days of driving stock tune two codes were set(BOTH FOR PO420-422)and my car was only a few months old so guessing it was the cats with a broken substrate. Zajpturbo said:
Z your codes were for catalyst efficiency...that has nothing to do with quality ....if there isn't enough material then the cats won't do what they are supposed to....the reason for that is trying to produce less restriction which is why people buy performance cats...u can't really have the cake and eat it ...if u have cats that don't set codes then they most likely flow less than catted pipes that aren't emission friendly
Now if u are super smart and all knowing like me then you can have the best of both worlds and have race pipes and pass everything....don't hate
Now if u are super smart and all knowing like me then you can have the best of both worlds and have race pipes and pass everything....don't hate
k:Back to the thread... I ordered my Catted DP's from Livernois the other day. Looking forward to getting them in the next week. Hopefully I won't run into any issues with the O2 sensors like the Stainless Works pipes. The only thing I'm really worried about is getting the bolts off the existing DP's. Cars got about 8k miles on it now, and I've only had this since Dec 2014.
Well, I got my LM downpipes installed today. Received them a few weeks back but just didn't have time to get them installed. I was a bit concerned with the turbo bolts coming out, so on this one I decided to look around at having someone else do the work. I had called some performance shops in the area, and I either got differed to other shops, refused, or no call backs. So I took it over to my local Ford dealer in Roselle, and the service manager was very receptive to doing the job. Gave me a fair price for just under 3 hours of work. The tech working on it was very impressed by the quality of the DP's, and said I've installed aftermarket items for others before, but these were probably the easiest ones to work on. They fit perfect with no modifications needed. I've been discussing with the service manager about the mods I've made, he seemed to like the setup so much that he ordered a tune from Livernois for his wife's F150. Glad to have a dealer willing to work with me on this when needed.
By the way, the DP's are a real hoot to drive. I hear a bit more turbo whine now, and the acceleration response improved a lot, pulls great on a 93 octane 3 bar tune. Plus theres just a little bit more rumble you can feel from before the swap
By the way, the DP's are a real hoot to drive. I hear a bit more turbo whine now, and the acceleration response improved a lot, pulls great on a 93 octane 3 bar tune. Plus theres just a little bit more rumble you can feel from before the swap
Right now, the stock exhaust from the flex pipes back is still there so the extra Cat's in the factory exhaust are still there. I'll probably get the Corsa exhaust later this year. The downpipes I bought have the Catalytic converters and O2 mounts, so maybe its cleaning it up a bit.
I took it out during my lunch hour just now and I don't have any fuel odor, or smokey blow-by at idle, at least not yet. I will say prior to DP install, if I got on it, I'd get a little hint of smoke once in a while, but nothing excessive. Today when I was driving spiritedly I didn't see any smoke. Seems to be working ok, no vibrations coming from the exhaust hitting the frame. The tech installing it said the clearance is a little close to the cross member brace under the engine, but it still had probably 3/4 of inch of room
I took it out during my lunch hour just now and I don't have any fuel odor, or smokey blow-by at idle, at least not yet. I will say prior to DP install, if I got on it, I'd get a little hint of smoke once in a while, but nothing excessive. Today when I was driving spiritedly I didn't see any smoke. Seems to be working ok, no vibrations coming from the exhaust hitting the frame. The tech installing it said the clearance is a little close to the cross member brace under the engine, but it still had probably 3/4 of inch of room