Impossible to remove coil on plug modules

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lamrith

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I tried working on the "new" show the other day and swap in colder plugs.  removed the bolt holding the coil pack on, and the wire.  tried pulling he coil out and it would not come out.  I tried twisting it a little bit, but it just would not come off?  I do not want to pry on it and risk breaking something. 

I just got the service records for the car, religious and routine oil changes by dealer so I do not see the PO taking it anywhere else for plugs, which means they are the original factory plugs.

Anyone have any thoughts or ideas?  I saw a video about having to pry/use pliers on the coil pack seals around the plug, but I cannot even get the coil off to get that far.  Thinking strongly about just letting the dealer do a plug swap with std plugs to break everything free, and I will then replace with colder and be sure to use dielectric grease on the boots?
 
I had to twist and pull on the COPs numerous times to get them to budge in a vertical direction.  I think getting the engine warmed up a little (say to 100F) before attempting may help.  That's the advice given for pulling plugs from aluminum heads, may work with COPs also.  Most likely the COPs will be OK with all the pulling, but the boots may get left behind.

I think they superglue the boots onto the plugs at the factory LOL.  Mine had some orange stuff on them.
 
SHOdded said:
I had to twist and pull on the COPs numerous times to get them to budge in a vertical direction.  I think getting the engine warmed up a little (say to 100F) before attempting may help.  That's the advice given for pulling plugs from aluminum heads, may work with COPs also.  Most likely the COPs will be OK with all the pulling, but the boots may get left behind.

I think they superglue the boots onto the plugs at the factory LOL.  Mine had some orange stuff on them.
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OK.  I have done my fair bit of wrenching over the years, never seen a COP hold like these were.  Good to know about the orange stuff. 
Car had been driven just prior to trying to swap out, but I did let it cool way off.  I will try it bone cold tonight and then get her warmed up and try again.
 
I would try inserting a piece of long rope inside the hole where the bolt holds the Coil and gently pull it up while at the same time try twisting/pulling the coil with your other hand.  Z
Please advise caution.
 
Just keep turning and pulling it until it pops.  It will eventually come out, but your boot most likely will still be stuck on your plug.  The boots are a couple dollars each.
 
pmezo33 said:
Just keep turning and pulling it until it pops.  It will eventually come out, but your boot most likely will still be stuck on your plug.  The boots are a couple dollars each.
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Long as you do not buy them from the dealer..  $10/ea!  Rockauto is <$4.

Autoparts stores local are better price, but not a single one of them has 6 available, and between them all I can't build a set of 6..  DOH
 
 
$10 for boots??  I don't remember paying that much and i always get them from the dealer.  What a rip off.

Hopefully you shouldn't need all 6.  Just replace the ones that break.  Hopefully that's kept at a minimum.
 
$2.97 a boot at my local dealer, I ended up replacing 4 out of 6. Biggest PITA was getting the boots out... never did find a good way besides long needle nose pliers, and a can of air to clean out the well.
 
StealBlueSho said:
$2.97 a boot at my local dealer, I ended up replacing 4 out of 6. Biggest PITA was getting the boots out... never did find a good way besides long needle nose pliers, and a can of air to clean out the well.
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By far the best method is with a coat hanger.  Just get a metal coat hanger, take it apart, and then shape it into a hook.  Grab between the boot and the spark plug and just pull up.  You'll have the boot out in 2 seconds.  Much easier than needle nose pliers.  I never had luck with them.  Always end up just tearing them into pieces.
 
pmezo33 said:
StealBlueSho said:
$2.97 a boot at my local dealer, I ended up replacing 4 out of 6. Biggest PITA was getting the boots out... never did find a good way besides long needle nose pliers, and a can of air to clean out the well.
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By far the best method is with a coat hanger.  Just get a metal coat hanger, take it apart, and then shape it into a hook.  Grab between the boot and the spark plug and just pull up.  You'll have the boot out in 2 seconds.  Much easier than needle nose pliers.  I never had luck with them.  Always end up just tearing them into pieces.
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^^^^this could have saved me some busted knuckles and time... thanks for the heads up! Although i dumped enough dielectric grease kill a horse in the new ones...
 
StealBlueSho said:
pmezo33 said:
StealBlueSho said:
$2.97 a boot at my local dealer, I ended up replacing 4 out of 6. Biggest PITA was getting the boots out... never did find a good way besides long needle nose pliers, and a can of air to clean out the well.
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By far the best method is with a coat hanger.  Just get a metal coat hanger, take it apart, and then shape it into a hook.  Grab between the boot and the spark plug and just pull up.  You'll have the boot out in 2 seconds.  Much easier than needle nose pliers.  I never had luck with them.  Always end up just tearing them into pieces.
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^^^^this could have saved me some busted knuckles and time... thanks for the heads up! Although i dumped enough dielectric grease kill a horse in the new ones...
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It could have saved me a few busted knuckles too if i figured it out a little earlier.  First time i did plugs on this car, i struggled for over an hour trying to get one boot out with pliers.  Just kept ripping the thing.
 
I have seal picks (dentist picks) that I will try to use like the coathanger.  Thanks for that tip. 

Problem I have is there are none local and this is my DD, so if I nuke one and have none, or get 4 and nuke 5 I am hosed...

I ended up ordering all 6 from Rockauto.  I also plan to smother them with Dielectric grease.

Thanks for all the tips guys!  I still have to work on getting the coils off, but will wait until I get the boots inhand.
 
Yup, wait till your backup plan is in place before going all in.  Although I know some people like to go in nekked LOL.
 
SHOdded said:
Yup, wait till your backup plan is in place before going all in.  Although I know some people like to go in nekked LOL.
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But then you end up racing to the hardware store, 10 minutes before they close, looking for a vacuum T, because you managed to break the one that was installed, leading to a vacuum assisted break failure (I did this, not fun, be prepared for everything that can go wrong if the SHO is your only available car).
 
derfdog15 said:
SHOdded said:
Yup, wait till your backup plan is in place before going all in.  Although I know some people like to go in nekked LOL.
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But then you end up racing to the hardware store, 10 minutes before they close, looking for a vacuum T, because you managed to break the one that was installed, leading to a vacuum assisted break failure (I did this, not fun, be prepared for everything that can go wrong if the SHO is your only available car).
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Won't be worse than the STSV I traded in for it..
 
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