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DJE624
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Atta boy Harvey. I love hearing about mopar kills!
Kill of the Day: Ecoboost vs. the World
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steve142857
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I have the stage 4 LMS tune and I can do 0-100 in about 12 seconds. The stage 4+ is comming in the near future...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_yPWn-sv1M
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I didn't know that they still made the stage 4, I thought stage 4+ was an improvement of stage 4, so I don't know why one would choose stage 4... I had asked to modify stage 4 to add a bit of torque management, but to increase boost as well and stage 4+ felt much better for the car.
I have the stage 4 LMS tune and I can do 0-100 in about 12 seconds. The stage 4+ is comming in the near future...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_yPWn-sv1M
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I didn't know that they still made the stage 4, I thought stage 4+ was an improvement of stage 4, so I don't know why one would choose stage 4... I had asked to modify stage 4 to add a bit of torque management, but to increase boost as well and stage 4+ felt much better for the car.
steve142857
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If you are stock, the driver of the SRT8 must have missed a shift, because from 60-90mph, the SRT8 is much faster than a stock SHO. From 0-60mph however, AWD is a no brainer, unless at the track with glue for him...dmharvey79 said:
The trap speed of an SRT8 is around 114mph and your car is 103mph, that is a big difference.
Just don't bet against one on a roll based on that experience : )
I have the stage 4 LMS tune and I can do 0-100 in about 12 seconds. The stage 4+ is comming in the near future...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_yPWn-sv1M
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I didn't know that they still made the stage 4, I thought stage 4+ was an improvement of stage 4, so I don't know why one would choose stage 4... I had asked to modify stage 4 to add a bit of torque management, but to increase boost as well and stage 4+ felt much better for the car.
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The stage 4 is with the SCTX3 and the 4+ is the mycal. I have the X3 so the support isnt as good. Thats why most just get the mycal.
You could just get a custom tune from Torrie since you have an SCT, do data logs and get a custom tune specifically for your vehicle based off of log feedback, IMHO much better overall way to go, no matter what anybody says about tables and sensors.3POINT5 said:
I STRONGLY believe that a tune that is made for your vehicle based off of log feedback from your vehicle is the BEST way to go. Torrie is the only guy tuning transverse vehicle that I know of right now so he's the guy. I know it worked well for my 600HP vehicle and it was on E85!
Night Hawk
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3POINT5 said:
I didn't know that they still made the stage 4, I thought stage 4+ was an improvement of stage 4, so I don't know
why one would choose stage 4... I had asked to modify stage 4 to add a bit of torque management, but to increase boost as well and stage 4+ felt much better for the car.
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The stage 4 is with the SCTX3 and the 4+ is the mycal. I have the X3 so the support isnt as good. Thats why most
just get the my cal.
I just did the same exact thing. I went from the old 4+ (now considered the 4 using the sct x3) to the my cal with the updated 4+ within a month or two ago. I am very happy with the upgraded LMS tune.
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DJE624
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I ran the Stage 4+ for over six months before I got it tweaked. It is a safe and powerful tune. The Stage 4+ was designed on a load bearing dynojet (along with real world street testing). Quote from Livernois' website: "This allows for accurate tuning with integrated air/fuel and boost monitoring under real-world loading conditions. This means a safe tune with plenty of power." The tweaks I am now running were based on my dyno pulls when I went out there last summer. Sure, I had to go there for the tweaks but it was not necessary. The Stage 4+ is an awesome tune in and of itself. I also am not interested in doing logs on equipment that may or may not be accurate. Nor do I have any plans for using E85. So, I would recommend The MyCal Stage 4+ tune to anybody in a situation similar to mine.
The reason I have the 4 no the 4+ is I already had the x3 that I used with my fusion Sport. I didn't have the extra cash to get the other tuner with the 4+. Livernois will still tune it with the SCTx3and the tune works just fine. It just doesn't have the tuning capabilities the mycal. I live 20 minutes from LMS so I drove there and had them load me some tunes and called it a day. I will be getting the other tuner when I can sell my X3.
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DJE624
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I originally had the SCT with Stage 4. Very soon after bought the MyCal. It's kind of funny because the reason I did go to LMS was that I complained about seeing any real gains. They said "Come on out if you want and we'll show you". They did.
I don't really agree with LMS statements it has more tuning ability than the SCT, that's a statement but there's not proof to that.
I'm hoping to dyno head to head soon, I'm sure Torrie will be excited for us to compare the SCT X3 tune vs the LMS tuner, I will always believe until proven side by side that a data logged tune is better than a canned tune for a car that's not yours.
I'm hoping to dyno head to head soon, I'm sure Torrie will be excited for us to compare the SCT X3 tune vs the LMS tuner, I will always believe until proven side by side that a data logged tune is better than a canned tune for a car that's not yours.
You guys are way more familiar with the tuners then I am, but I can tell you that I've been running an early Stage 4+ tune from Livernois since July of 2011 without any problems and the performance is fine. I know I checked a few months ago, and LMS told me that there was no update to the tune I have, but I am completely satisfied with this canned tune, and I would be really, really surprised if there would be much "seat of the pants" feel with the MyCal vs the SCT tuner that I have (although without looking-I'm not sure which model tuner I own).
mjhpadi said:
Mark, I think you and I have the same tune and, like you, I am very pleased with it. I have communicated with LMS 2 or 3 different times about the possibility of going to the MyCal and really haven't gotten consistent answers on the benefit of doing so - unless I plan to run meth or go to a custom tune requiring a trip to the dyno. I will not be doing either of those things. Even if going to the MyCal 4+ would shave a smidgen off my ET, the benefit wouldn't be worth the cost to me.
Night Hawk
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From what I understand, the Mycal is able to access more parameters than the x3 thus a more fine tune. The boost maintains longer into the rpm band than the previous 4+(now 4). With multiple mods including Airaid, exhaust, 170* thermo and soon to be downpipes, it was a no brainer for me.
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DJE624
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I believe that when it comes to tunes the question of better is relative. Better could mean a little faster or better could mean safer. Throw in ease of use and "plug and play" and you have another choice of preference. There are plenty of guys on each side of this fence. I am not interested in jumping that fence and I would suspect that most guys on one side or the other are not either. I have already voided my power train warranty with my tune at 800 miles. I have 8000 miles now. I would rather stay a little back from the edge.
steve142857
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The Mycal for 2010-2012 is very nice with color screen etc. The one for 2013+ sucks... It looks like Atari2600 would have done a better job lolNight Hawk said:
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DJE624
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I like the no touch mycal fine. (I had the identical looking Hypertech unit for my Fusion.) Every time I turned on the X3 I thought the circus was coming to town. I hope they fixed that with the X4. BTW, the X4 looks much better than the X3 and I like the smaller size.
