LS Swap into 2010 SHO

[ajpturbo]

If you want an LS swapped car, just buy a foxbody roller and throw an LS in that. I cant see any reason to throw an LS into a perfectly running SHO, and spend probably half the value of the car to swap to the LS, especially with the amount of mods you've done that would need to be repurposed or go to waste.

In a non SHO model, maybe, but in a SHO, I say no. You want an LS car, go get an SS instead and spare the SHO.

Half the value of the car?....id say it would be double the value of his sho if not more....parts labor and yes there will be fab oh yes there will be fab

I'm with derf....You want an LS I'd get a Pontiac G8 and mod it or an SS and mod that because once you LS swap a SHO you would lose the FWD and you'd essentially have a G8 or SS anyway.

And good luck getting your gauges to work..I know there are companies that make wiring harness' for engine swaps but those are for popular swaps....With the high speed CAN BUS and all the body modules I say good luck with all of that..You'd be finding things that don't work constantly....ANd how about DBW? You'd need a pedal assembly from a DBW LS engine or go cable throttle and if you used a GM ECU the rest of SHO's electronic controls are screwed

 

[StealBlueSHO]

If you want an LS swapped car, just buy a foxbody roller and throw an LS in that. I cant see any reason to throw an LS into a perfectly running SHO, and spend probably half the value of the car to swap to the LS, especially with the amount of mods you've done that would need to be repurposed or go to waste.

In a non SHO model, maybe, but in a SHO, I say no. You want an LS car, go get an SS instead and spare the SHO.

Half the value of the car?....id say it would be double the value of his sho if not more....parts labor and yes there will be fab oh yes there will be fab

I'm with derf....You want an LS I'd get a Pontiac G8 and mod it or an SS and mod that because once you LS swap a SHO you would lose the FWD and you'd essentially have a G8 or SS anyway.

And good luck getting your gauges to work..I know there are companies that make wiring harness' for engine swaps but those are for popular swaps....With the high speed CAN BUS and all the body modules I say good luck with all of that..You'd be finding things that don't work constantly....ANd how about DBW? You'd need a pedal assembly from a DBW LS engine or go cable throttle and if you used a GM ECU the rest of SHO's electronic controls are screwed

There is a Holden badged 2017 SS up the street with only 3K miles on it... I have talked with the dealer a couple times about it. They are WAY over priced on it.. but have come down about $5K... I might pull the trigger on it and scoop up a ProCharger to slap in it... I am calling around dealerships to see who would warranty it if I pay them to install it.. I don't want a car note at $30K+ without a warranty.. and a stock SS is no good... but a force fed one... that could be fun...

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

I think you can do an LS powered 911/993/996 with everything working for around 20k including donor car with blown motor.

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/renegade-hybrids-porsches-arent-saving-planet/

If you are going to sully a nameplate with GM trash at least let it be some overpriced euro trash.

 

[bpd1151]

I think you can do an LS powered 911 with everything working for around 20k including donor car.

If you are going to sully a nameplate with GM trash at least let it be some overpriced euro trash.

Ha...... now the tail end of that post made me giggle snort. Tee hee hee.

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[ajpturbo]

Man the LS GM badmouthing is strong and making me feel dirty for partaking lol...I wonder if it’s because it’s a ford forum lol I guess it’s to be expected

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

Man the LS GM badmouthing is strong and making me feel dirty for partaking lol...I wonder if it’s because it’s a ford forum lol I guess it’s to be expected

I do think an AWD LS powered 9xx abomination would be a helluva lot of fun.

 

[derfdog15]

I thought I was being nice, cause I suggested the LS Foxbody (though that's because its tried and true, and can be done for 5k or less for everything if you do junkyard parts and are patient).

But LS SHO just makes me cringe. There are cars an LS swap fits in, but I don't see the SHO as one. I think an LS swapped fusion(like an 06-12) would be bonkers. LS in a ricer or a euro as well. But the SHO is just too nice of a powerplant/setup on its own.

 

[DerricksSho]

My GOD man!!!!! you should defiantly get a G8 or SS considering doing a LS swap im so sick of the trend and hearing that the copied windsor of the past is such a cheap motor to build and can handle Soooo much power blah blah blah gut any car out and throw a motor in it. You want a Unique car put a BIG BLOCK FORD in it 460, 427 sounds like you want to throw money!!!! That or you could always put a real WINDSOR in it 351! FORD to the front.....

 

[Brucelinc]

Another option is a Mustang with the Coyote engine.  The get a supercharger from Livernois or even from Ford Performance.

If things work out, I plan share some details about a little project I hope to be working on, myself.....

 

[68_GT]

Personally, my 2 cents is this:  Take the money that it would cost to swap, and put it into getting a custom, fully built transmission and PTU for your existing drive train.  Once those parts can handle higher power levels, you can start extracting some real power from the EcoBoost.

even with money as no object
can any of that be done ??

I'd put a LS or a Coyote into an old 280Z or a Miata or Fox Mustang something to make stupid fast and leave my SHO alone for what it is.

 

[StealBlueSHO]

Looks like I lit a fire under everyone's A$$ with my comment about the LS swap... geeze.....

 

[irondoor19]

Money to Burn

Livernois Short Block to Start:

https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP750100

or the race Series:

https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP750101

Way Extra Money to Blow:

Get them to build you ONE: 15 to 18K.....?

 

[StealBlueSHO]

Money to Burn

Livernois Short Block to Start:

https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP750100

or the race Series:

https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP750101

Way Extra Money to Blow:

Get them to build you ONE: 15 to 18K.....?

No point in dropping a built motor if the PTU/Trans/RDU cannot handle the extra power... I just got off the phone with the local speed shop that is interested in the LS Swap... really good conversation. They are familiar with the Ecoboost AWD setups... after talking with him, he is going to work with his engineers to find out if its possible to A: Swap out the existing JTEKT setup with something stronger (yes he already told me it would require a lot of fabrication) or B: If his team is willing to tear down the transmission/ptu/rdu to see what they can do to strengthen the setup which is more or less what LMS mentioned would need to happen.

 

[Agentlongwood]

Personally, my 2 cents is this:  Take the money that it would cost to swap, and put it into getting a custom, fully built transmission and PTU for your existing drive train.  Once those parts can handle higher power levels, you can start extracting some real power from the EcoBoost.

even with money as no object
can any of that be done ??

Yup.  LMS is ready and willing to create those exact parts.  All it takes is money, and someone willing to put their car under the knife as a guinea pig.  LMS is not the only speed shop with solutions either.  From reading BPD's posts on that issue it seems like he's looked into it at great length, and found the trans and PTU are really holding back the platform.  You COULD very easily make more power, but you will likely scatter trans parts all over the track.  I REALLY want to see people run big turbos or even single turbo in a SHO.  But nobody is going to do that if the drive train can't handle it.

 

[SHOdded]

Looks like I lit a fire under everyone's A$$ with my comment about the LS swap... geeze.....

Thanks for allowing the community to stand united

 

[J-Will]

Personally, my 2 cents is this:  Take the money that it would cost to swap, and put it into getting a custom, fully built transmission and PTU for your existing drive train.  Once those parts can handle higher power levels, you can start extracting some real power from the EcoBoost.

even with money as no object
can any of that be done ??

Yup.  LMS is ready and willing to create those exact parts.  All it takes is money, and someone willing to put their car under the knife as a guinea pig.  LMS is not the only speed shop with solutions either.  From reading BPD's posts on that issue it seems like he's looked into it at great length, and found the trans and PTU are really holding back the platform.  You COULD very easily make more power, but you will likely scatter trans parts all over the track.  I REALLY want to see people run big turbos or even single turbo in a SHO.  But nobody is going to do that if the drive train can't handle it.

I dont know man; if LMS was really 'ready and willing' then one would have to think they'd sell more $7,500 engines, $2k HPFPs, and $500 oil pumps knowing that the drivetrain is a weak link if they provided those upgrades.

 

[StealBlueSHO]

Personally, my 2 cents is this:  Take the money that it would cost to swap, and put it into getting a custom, fully built transmission and PTU for your existing drive train.  Once those parts can handle higher power levels, you can start extracting some real power from the EcoBoost.

even with money as no object
can any of that be done ??

Yup.  LMS is ready and willing to create those exact parts.  All it takes is money, and someone willing to put their car under the knife as a guinea pig.  LMS is not the only speed shop with solutions either.  From reading BPD's posts on that issue it seems like he's looked into it at great length, and found the trans and PTU are really holding back the platform.  You COULD very easily make more power, but you will likely scatter trans parts all over the track.  I REALLY want to see people run big turbos or even single turbo in a SHO.  But nobody is going to do that if the drive train can't handle it.

I offered up my car to be a guinea pig.. just waiting on a response back... again... the rep I talked to see to think that it had been done before but they were unable to find a good solution... we will see...

 

[bpd1151]

I would've known had they did.

Dan and I talk somewhat regularly and he doesn't keep me in the dark.

Cody is probably referencing the couple of guys who did attempt trans upgrades (not LMS fabricated one's) & both of those failed miserably after a short, 2k miles and less.

The same vendor that built the trans in LMS's record setting EB Mustang, is the same vendor Dan was recommending to me at that time.

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[lamrith]

If you want an LS swapped car, just buy a foxbody roller and throw an LS in that. I cant see any reason to throw an LS into a perfectly running SHO, and spend probably half the value of the car to swap to the LS, especially with the amount of mods you've done that would need to be repurposed or go to waste.

In a non SHO model, maybe, but in a SHO, I say no. You want an LS car, go get an SS instead and spare the SHO.

Half the value of the car?....id say it would be double the value of his sho if not more....parts labor and yes there will be fab oh yes there will be fab

I'm with derf....You want an LS I'd get a Pontiac G8 and mod it or an SS and mod that because once you LS swap a SHO you would lose the FWD and you'd essentially have a G8 or SS anyway.

And good luck getting your gauges to work..I know there are companies that make wiring harness' for engine swaps but those are for popular swaps....With the high speed CAN BUS and all the body modules I say good luck with all of that..You'd be finding things that don't work constantly....ANd how about DBW? You'd need a pedal assembly from a DBW LS engine or go cable throttle and if you used a GM ECU the rest of SHO's electronic controls are screwed

There is a Holden badged 2017 SS up the street with only 3K miles on it... I have talked with the dealer a couple times about it. They are WAY over priced on it.. but have come down about $5K... I might pull the trigger on it and scoop up a ProCharger to slap in it... I am calling around dealerships to see who would warranty it if I pay them to install it.. I don't want a car note at $30K+ without a warranty.. and a stock SS is no good... but a force fed one... that could be fun...

Swap in parts form a CTS-V.  Those guys are always upgrading to something bigger and looking to sell the stock parts....

Man the LS GM badmouthing is strong and making me feel dirty for partaking lol...I wonder if it’s because it’s a ford forum lol I guess it’s to be expected

I do think an AWD LS powered 9xx abomination would be a helluva lot of fun.

That I will agree with..  wow, just thinking about t...  strap in and hold on!

 

[Agentlongwood]

I dont know man; if LMS was really 'ready and willing' then one would have to think they'd sell more $7,500 engines, $2k HPFPs, and $500 oil pumps knowing that the drivetrain is a weak link if they provided those upgrades.

My bad, I meant ready and willing to develop the parts.  As in start the long, painful, and expensive process.  Didn't mean to imply that they already had a built trans ready to sell.