MDesign Intake review-bigmoneycloser

[bigmoneycloser]

Since the dyno had software issues, can we trust the numbers?  The torque number seems very odd, over +20 actual (~16 seen at the wheels) with a significant difference in RPM.  This is a a massive gain from 'only an intake'.  Even considering what I stated before with symbiotic exhaust mods, the gains still seem high.  I want to believe, but the skeptical side of me makes me question the shop's software failure.

Considering the mods BMC has done to his vehicle and the design of the intake, the gains seem on the upper end of the scale but correct. There was a issue with opening the files not the creation of the files and the shop has been working with Mustang over the last couple days to resolve this, so no worries. The fact that our vehicles are turbocharged also benefits us much more when using a properly designed intake over a NA engine, due to the help of our twins.

This intake has had 5 redesigns, from dual complete piping to each turbo with dual filters to added intake scoops to bring in fresh air, and has been in development for over 7 months. In short, a lot of thought went into the design of the intake such as the flow path and dynamics of the air flow, and keeping temperatures down to OEM levels as well.

^^ correct..


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[J-Will]

I am satisfied, just wanted to pose the question.

 

[SHOnUup]

What were the results with the dual intake with separate piping? Did I miss that?

Rich

 

[bigmoneycloser]

Also just want to make sure everyone knows I am just a customer here. I have no interest in MDesign as a company. I am just a happy customer trying to report back as much info back to everyone as possible.


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[Spartn27]

What were the results with the dual intake with separate piping? Did I miss that?

Rich

It was a couple months back, the whole intake system was replaced with custom aluminum piping for each turbo separately though the IAT results weren't any better than other aftermarket intakes. This was most likely due to the aluminum piping as plastic has better thermal properties.

 

[peppelepugh]

Signed up for the next batch!

 

[SHOdded]

Thoughts on a bigger inline filter?  Helpful in extending the gains, or no?

 

[SHOnUup]

What were the results with the dual intake with separate piping? Did I miss that?

Rich

It was a couple months back, the whole intake system was replaced with custom aluminum piping for each turbo separately though the IAT results weren't any better than other aftermarket intakes. This was most likely due to the aluminum piping as plastic has better thermal properties.

IAT temps aside, the even airflow to both turbos sounds like a winner to me. From my understanding the rear turbo gets alot better air than the front with Ford's crazy saxophone setup. Is there a prototype of the dual intake still around?

Rich

 

[ZSHO]

Spartn any way to install a prefilter to cut down maintenance,only a suggestion,cause have one on my Airaid and still looks new after a year.

 

[Spartn27]

Thoughts on a bigger inline filter?  Helpful in extending the gains, or no?

Many options have been considered though after almost a year of real world testing and reworking the intake I believe due to the design of the filter that air flow is not a problem nor a bottleneck with the current filter.

IAT temps aside, the even airflow to both turbos sounds like a winner to me. From my understanding the rear turbo gets alot better air than the front with Ford's crazy saxophone setup. Is there a prototype of the dual intake still around?

Rich

Unfortunately no. These were my initial thoughts though after real world testing the gains were not there over the OEM intake, I also noticed some people had similar results with the Hennessey intake (similar design). The piping also was not equal as the front turbo piping was shorter, that is the reason for Ford's design where it appears that they are unequal though they are not. Furthermore the design of the current intake takes away as little as possible from the OEM look/function, where as previous designs replaced most parts and did not look as "clean"/original, which I believe is also a important aspect.

The saxophone setup is actually designed as both engine dampening (the engine torques when driving) and to have pockets/grooves acting as vacuum ports, so there is a reason why the engineers chose to design the system as they did.

Spartn any way to install a prefilter to cut down maintenance,only a suggestion,cause have one on my Airaid and still looks new after a year.

I currently have 30,000 miles on the same filter and it has never been cleaned, it was removed not too long ago and still looked remarkably well therefore I believe with a good maintenance interval (K&N recommends 50,000 miles) you will be all set. Personally I would recommended cleaning it once a year as it is pretty simple to do and easy maintenance. Here are a couple cleaning guides:

http://www.knfilters.com/cleaning.htm

http://www.aemintakes.com/air_filter_cleaning_instructions.htm

 

[SHOnUup]

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated!

Rich

 

[rjdkanak]

Just got mine yesterday, installed today. Haven't had a chance to drive with it yet, but so far very impressed! Install coming from KN hot air intake was super easy. Thanks Spartn27!!

 

[SHOdded]

Looks great, hope you will enjoy increased performance as well :thumb:

 

[ZSHO]

All my posts had nothing to say but positive results in regards to the intake,just wanted to clarify regarding the carbon fibre battery cover,any progression in that area yet,and if so keep me updated on a package deal for both,thanks Z.

 

[Spartn27]

Just got mine yesterday, installed today. Haven't had a chance to drive with it yet, but so far very impressed! Install coming from KN hot air intake was super easy. Thanks Spartn27!!

Glad you enjoy it!

All my posts had nothing to say but positive results in regards to the intake,just wanted to clarify regarding the carbon fibre battery cover,any progression in that area yet,and if so keep me updated on a package deal for both,thanks Z.

Currently I am tied up with exams and getting the next batch of intakes ready for shipping next week though I do plan on doing a limited run of carbon fiber engine covers/battery covers, most likely end of December or early January if time permits Members who have purchased a intake will get priority ordering if they choose to get either.

 

[SHO-TYM]

Just got mine yesterday, installed today. Haven't had a chance to drive with it yet, but so far very impressed! Install coming from KN hot air intake was super easy. Thanks Spartn27!!

Glad you enjoy it!

All my posts had nothing to say but positive results in regards to the intake,just wanted to clarify regarding the carbon fibre battery cover,any progression in that area yet,and if so keep me updated on a package deal for both,thanks Z.

Currently I am tied up with exams and getting the next batch of intakes ready for shipping next week though I do plan on doing a limited run of carbon fiber engine covers/battery covers, most likely end of December or early January if time permits Members who have purchased a intake will get priority ordering if they choose to get either.

Can't wait to get mine.... gonna look good in Road & Track!

 

[peppelepugh]

^^^^OH YES!!!!

 

[navbtcret]

I have had mine on for a week now and really love the look under the hood. I will not get a chance to see if I get any gains until spring when the track opens, I am not a dyno guy. Hopefully I will see the better part of a tenth faster.

 

[Spartn27]

I have had mine on for a week now and really love the look under the hood. I will not get a chance to see if I get any gains until spring when the track opens, I am not a dyno guy. Hopefully I will see the better part of a tenth faster.

You could always drive down south until you find a open track!

 

[navbtcret]

I have had mine on for a week now and really love the look under the hood. I will not get a chance to see if I get any gains until spring when the track opens, I am not a dyno guy. Hopefully I will see the better part of a tenth faster.

You could always drive down south until you find a open track!

I am patient and will wait until spring. I have winter tires on it now and will not be going back to the regular tires until April.