Mulling over rim choices
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Frozen Taurus
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TSW got back to me about a few more rims
TSW Tanaka - 29lbs
TSW Max – 35 lbs.
TSW Mirabeau – 32 lbs.
TSW Monaco – 34 lbs. (approximate)
TSW Tanaka - 29lbs
TSW Max – 35 lbs.
TSW Mirabeau – 32 lbs.
TSW Monaco – 34 lbs. (approximate)
Frozen Taurus said:
For a 20" wheel, those are all WAY too heavy, except the Mirabeau...that's a 2 piece wheel and they aren't cheap. .
I know there's this thing about TSW, but truly unless we're talking about the Nurburgring or Interlagos, I think you can do better.
Like I said, Axis Model One. That's a sweet wheel if you like the simple understated 5 spoke.
OR, head to www.discounttiredirect.com and they've got some light Falken FK wheels. There's a few Flexes running around with those in various sizes, all seem very happy.
edit regarding the Axis Model One,
they were even kind enough to post their weights
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/wheels-tires/317969-introducing-new-axis-model-one.html
Frozen Taurus
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Sorry I should have clarified those rim sizes were 20x10 ... I would be quite happy with any of those weights for a 20x10 rim.
What does our factory 20x8.5 rim weigh?
What does our factory 20x8.5 rim weigh?
Frozen Taurus
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At 25.9 pounds for the Panorama it's a no brainer and with free shipping to my door from Toronto I can't pass that up
Frozen Taurus said:
It is rotary forged as well.
But again, you're going with 20x10 in the front??
Have you confirmed this even works? I ask because my 22x10 +37 was test-fit up front just for fun (and to see if I went too conservative with my staggered approach afterall), but it immediately hit the strut before I could bolt it up. A 22x10 +34 or +33 might have squeaked by, but that would also stick out a LOT... in the front at least.
A 20 X 10 in the front is NOT going to fit with ANY offset ... my old Giovanna Meccas were 22 X 9 with a + 35 offset with 265/35/22 and just barely cleared the strut towers and inside shroud area ..... A 10" wide wheel is to much for the front .... It would work on the rear though ......
I agree completely with Kbeck from watching others with the SHO and MKS......
I do recollect bigmoneycloser has a 2014 Explorer Sport with 22x10.5 Vossen CVT and Pirelli Scorpion Zero Asimmetrico 285/35/22 with H & R lowering springs... wonder if it was of the explorer, the offset, or the wheel design?
I do recollect bigmoneycloser has a 2014 Explorer Sport with 22x10.5 Vossen CVT and Pirelli Scorpion Zero Asimmetrico 285/35/22 with H & R lowering springs... wonder if it was of the explorer, the offset, or the wheel design?
Frozen Taurus
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What will be the issue? Getting the offset right? Cause I am quite sure that a 275 tire has been done up front on these cars.
I can do custom spacers http://www.motorsport-tech.com/
I can do custom spacers http://www.motorsport-tech.com/
Frozen Taurus
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Visually this is what I am heading to, I know these are 22 inch rims but those are also some wide tires and it's lowered on H&R's
Frozen Taurus
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I am leaning towards the Megan racing coilovers for sure
Pics of standard strut/spring vs Megan coilover at bottom of this post:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=675.msg5246#msg5246
First-SHO is running coilovers and 20x9.5's with 275/45-20's:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=675.msg5792#msg5792
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=675.msg5246#msg5246
First-SHO is running coilovers and 20x9.5's with 275/45-20's:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=675.msg5792#msg5792
Frozen Taurus
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I see First-SHO had to add spacers to make them fit, I wonder what his offset was to begin with.
Can find any pics of his car on here either
Can find any pics of his car on here either
With the narrower body of the Megan Coilovers a 20 x 10 with a +35 offset would work.
Plus you may be able to go to a 295 or 285 wide tire depending on the profile height. and an offset change or spacers .
I wish Megan would get with it ..... they are supposed to have Coilovers for the 2013+ soon.
.y
Plus you may be able to go to a 295 or 285 wide tire depending on the profile height. and an offset change or spacers .
I wish Megan would get with it ..... they are supposed to have Coilovers for the 2013+ soon.
.y
Frozen Taurus
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Hmm maybe I get the Megan's first then do some measuring and entertain going with 285's all around >
Or maybe I don't get too greedy and stick with my original plan :yes:
Or maybe I don't get too greedy and stick with my original plan :yes:
Uh... I believe we found the Megan coilover kit has LESS clearance than the stock strut. I recall the thread where this was discussed, and it was about 1/8" less clearance.
Frozen, a 10" wide isn't going to work without pulling the fender and still poking. At least in the front. But you can definitely do it in the back, and I would. A staggered fitment is great on these cars provided you pay attention to tire circumference. 245/45-20 front, 275/40-20 rear, and you're golden. Some even roll a 255/45-20 front and do OK. But the rear flanks are wider than the front, so this staggered fitment covers a nice flush look front to back. Same for the Flex, almost exactly.
edit:
Here is some more info to mull over
http://www.hrsprings.com/projects/detail/hr-ford-taurus-sho/
That's the H&R SHO. Used to run a staggered 22x9 (with the rear just having more offset.) Runs a 265/35-22, front and rear. Their new setup is back down to 20", like you're thinking. But it is staggered 20x9 and 20x10, 255/45 and 275/40. As you can see by the fitment, this is the limit just about, before you start to do fender pulling and other more drastic things.
Notice the 20x9 and 22x9 front fit in these pics. An extra inch is not possible, without A: doing a stretch fitment and pulling the fender, or B: just ignoring that and poking out, hell with the rest.
Also notice how badass awesome the rear looks filled out like it does. I personally would have just kept the 22's, but they were going for the lighter, more racy appearance on the BBS units, so +1 for that I guess. 21" would have been perfect too.
Frozen, a 10" wide isn't going to work without pulling the fender and still poking. At least in the front. But you can definitely do it in the back, and I would. A staggered fitment is great on these cars provided you pay attention to tire circumference. 245/45-20 front, 275/40-20 rear, and you're golden. Some even roll a 255/45-20 front and do OK. But the rear flanks are wider than the front, so this staggered fitment covers a nice flush look front to back. Same for the Flex, almost exactly.
edit:
Here is some more info to mull over
http://www.hrsprings.com/projects/detail/hr-ford-taurus-sho/
That's the H&R SHO. Used to run a staggered 22x9 (with the rear just having more offset.) Runs a 265/35-22, front and rear. Their new setup is back down to 20", like you're thinking. But it is staggered 20x9 and 20x10, 255/45 and 275/40. As you can see by the fitment, this is the limit just about, before you start to do fender pulling and other more drastic things.
Notice the 20x9 and 22x9 front fit in these pics. An extra inch is not possible, without A: doing a stretch fitment and pulling the fender, or B: just ignoring that and poking out, hell with the rest.
Also notice how badass awesome the rear looks filled out like it does. I personally would have just kept the 22's, but they were going for the lighter, more racy appearance on the BBS units, so +1 for that I guess. 21" would have been perfect too.
Frozen Taurus
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I am not giving up on this, I just don't see how a 22x9 265 tire fits but no way in Hell a 20x10 275 tire will. I will run a bit of negative camber up front if I have to to get the rim to tuck into the fender.
I will measure this spring and see what I am working with before I order for sure
Thanks to those have helped out
I will measure this spring and see what I am working with before I order for sure
Thanks to those have helped out
Frozen Taurus said:
There is no way to adjust camber in the front without cutting something up and going VERY custom. Not in the factory stuff, not in the Megan stuff. The factory service manual shows that you can gain +.5 degree per side by spinning the strut hats 180 degrees, but most of us who have dropped our cars left them the way they were, which is maximum camber. The rear on the other hand gives gobs of negative camber, which you must dial out right away unless tires are a monthly purchase expectation.
I reiterate, I tried to mount my 22x10 rear wheels to the front, and they hit the strut while simultaneously poking out of the fender dramatically. In order to not strike the strut (stock strut, add 1/8" for the Megans), I would need an additional few mm outboard offset. U could then bolt the wheel up at least. As it stands, I'm a little concerned about going with Megans on my 22x9 +37, but I think I'll have a few mm to clear depending on how Megan coilovers are designed.
To validate, just grab your straightedge and measure from the hub to the fender, and then from the strut to the fender. You'll see. You could very possibly just go 20x9 and stuff in the 275 tire, we've seen that with some Flex guys and the tire sticks just a tiny bit out from the fender, and is about a mm or so from hitting the strut. So very very close though.