14 TUX BL said:Vortech347 said:... I'll take a RWD car with proper snow tires over an AWD with all seasons any day of the week.
RWD 410 hp SS + snow tires will behave as if it's running on slicks. Too much power for just one set of wheels to handle, chains maybe, but not just snows.
AWD SHO + AS tires spreads the traction work around, better chance to grab.
If the OP puts snows on his SS maybe he can let us know his thoughts on how they compare ...
Good catch! Beaten by the green (!!!) Camaro, though?ecoboostsho said:Did anyone see the license plate! LOL CTS V
That's why you pedal out of a slide...lolVortech347 said:14 TUX BL said:Vortech347 said:... I'll take a RWD car with proper snow tires over an AWD with all seasons any day of the week.
RWD 410 hp SS + snow tires will behave as if it's running on slicks. Too much power for just one set of wheels to handle, chains maybe, but not just snows.
AWD SHO + AS tires spreads the traction work around, better chance to grab.
If the OP puts snows on his SS maybe he can let us know his thoughts on how they compare ...
I'm not doubting the overall ability for actual straight line traction. Using HP for snow traction is irreverent unless you race in the snow. I prefer how a RWD car drives and handles. My wife and I both daily drove a Cobra and Marauder through winter with blizzaks without a single problem. Anyone here that has ran a dedicated snow tire will vouch that all season tires are the jack of all trades but masters of none. Especially when it comes to braking.
AWD only does ONE THING better and that is overall forward traction. It doesn't stop better, turn better, ect. Only provides more forward motion. Which is why Its fun to laugh at the Subaru's and lifted trucks slid off the road because they think AWD/4x4 magically changes the laws of friction and what tires are on the vehicle. I personally enjoy and prefer the handling and driving experience with RWD. Its okay though, I keep telling myself this SHO is a grown up car and I need to act my age. Thank god I still have the two tire shredd'n Mustangs in the garage when I choose to hang the ass out.
Back on topic that white SS is sexy!!
I think that isn't entirely true....Vortech347 said:14 TUX BL said:Vortech347 said:... I'll take a RWD car with proper snow tires over an AWD with all seasons any day of the week.
RWD 410 hp SS + snow tires will behave as if it's running on slicks. Too much power for just one set of wheels to handle, chains maybe, but not just snows.
AWD SHO + AS tires spreads the traction work around, better chance to grab.
If the OP puts snows on his SS maybe he can let us know his thoughts on how they compare ...
It doesn't stop better, turn better, ect.
Back on topic that white SS is sexy!!
Vortech347 said:... I prefer how a RWD car drives and handles.
My wife and I both daily drove a Cobra and Marauder through winter with blizzaks without a single problem. Anyone here that has ran a dedicated snow tire will vouch that all season tires are the jack of all trades but masters of none. Especially when it comes to braking.
AWD only does ONE THING better and that is overall forward traction.
14 TUX BL said:Vortech347 said:... I prefer how a RWD car drives and handles.
That's the point, an aspect of AWD handling makes RWD irrelevant.
My wife and I both daily drove a Cobra and Marauder through winter with blizzaks without a single problem. Anyone here that has ran a dedicated snow tire will vouch that all season tires are the jack of all trades but masters of none. Especially when it comes to braking.
I've driven 9 different Mustangs (most GT's) over 30 years including Winter driving, none of them with snows. To say they compare to AWD is beyond unreasonable.
If you know what you're doing with the proper tire. FWD/RWD can greatly exceed the standard expectation. Will it be 100% as good in a straight line for acceleration, of course not! But road holding and braking will be the same.
AWD only does ONE THING better and that is overall forward traction.
VERY WRONG. For example, try doing a full throttle left or right TURN at an intersection in the SHO, then do the same in a Stang. Actually, don't even bother trying to do it in a Stang. Save yourself the trouble.
That's called having fun with a RWD car. Of course you'll have better traction under any full throttle condition. no denying that.
Let's get back on topic comparing SS to SHO!
Agree'd. I just get a kick out of beating up STi-EVO guys open track with my 25 year old tin can fox body.
Vortech347 said:If you know what you're doing with the proper tire. FWD/RWD can greatly exceed the standard expectation. Will it be 100% as good in a straight line for acceleration, of course not! But road holding and braking will be the same.
That's called having fun with a RWD car. Of course you'll have better traction under any full throttle condition. no denying that.
Agree'd. I just get a kick out of beating up STi-EVO guys open track with my 25 year old tin can fox body.
He's yet to beat my times in my Vecoboostsho said:Did anyone see the license plate! LOL CTS V
Haha
JDW1 said:Awesome looking car. However, why would you need a catch can on a NA car? there isn't enough blow by that the PCV system wouldn't suffice. Could have saved a little $ IMO.
Thats great Mike,is that with full synthetic oil? ZSHO-Time said:JDW1 said:Awesome looking car. However, why would you need a catch can on a NA car? there isn't enough blow by that the PCV system wouldn't suffice. Could have saved a little $ IMO.
Haven't been on this site for awhile, so sorry for the bump.
The LS3 engine produces a lot of blow-bye through the PCV system and feeds it right back into the intake...especially if the car is driven "spirited". The picture below is of another SS owner's catch can (same one I have installed). I can attest to the same results, but this was roughly 800 miles of daily driving with occasional spirited driving. Would you want this feeding back into your intake?
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ZSHO said:Thats great Mike,is that with full synthetic oil? ZSHO-Time said:JDW1 said:Awesome looking car. However, why would you need a catch can on a NA car? there isn't enough blow by that the PCV system wouldn't suffice. Could have saved a little $ IMO.
Haven't been on this site for awhile, so sorry for the bump.
The LS3 engine produces a lot of blow-bye through the PCV system and feeds it right back into the intake...especially if the car is driven "spirited". The picture below is of another SS owner's catch can (same one I have installed). I can attest to the same results, but this was roughly 800 miles of daily driving with occasional spirited driving. Would you want this feeding back into your intake?
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SHO-Time said:Just to add to the AWD vs RWD debate....I ended up buying a 04 BMW 325XI as a winter beater in September. To date the SS has not seen a single snowflake.
ajpturbo said:SHO-Time said:Just to add to the AWD vs RWD debate....I ended up buying a 04 BMW 325XI as a winter beater in September. To date the SS has not seen a single snowflake.
Thats ok it saw snow and rain at the dealership they just didnt tell you....its a chevy, a general motors product...meaning a car for the masses...it belongs in the snow and weather, nothing special
SHO-Time said:ajpturbo said:SHO-Time said:Just to add to the AWD vs RWD debate....I ended up buying a 04 BMW 325XI as a winter beater in September. To date the SS has not seen a single snowflake.
Thats ok it saw snow and rain at the dealership they just didnt tell you....its a chevy, a general motors product...meaning a car for the masses...it belongs in the snow and weather, nothing special
Not the precipitation I care about, mainly the road salt. It's a little special being Holden is closing their doors this year. It's no# 30 out of 44 optioned in Perfect Blue with the manual transmission, sunroof & full size spare.