New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost

[802SHO]

Does this intercooler make meth unnecessary?

The intercooler upgrade will increase power.  Meth increases power.  I have meth, I'll still get more hp and torque from upgrading my intercooler.  Without meth you'll get increased hp and torque.  If you upgrade your intercooler instead of doing meth injection ....youll enjoy similar performance benefits as meth but they don't equal eachother out.  Having both will make more power than going with one or the other only.  Less scientific explanation than most lol I'm sure someone can chime in. 

 

[SHOdded]

Methanol will still retain its' benefit of cleaning the back of the intake valves, and you will need a lot less for that sole purpose.  If you have a progressive controller and are tuned for it, you could vary its' contribution to power levels as well in high DA conditions.  Benefit to having both.  Together, a 1-2 punch IMHO.

 

[avidmotion]

Squabbling over the price? No, i realize the time and cost of R&D and happy it is even done for our small close nit group of enthusiasts.  Get rid of my SHO is laughable in itself. Not going to hapen took me years to get. I had 90, and a 95 before this 2013, and got the PP for the extra coolers. In my situation i was referring to how long it will take me to save up to get and install the CAC. Not everyone has spendable fun money or a performance part budget. No one has to make fun of and insult those of us that has to research and plan to get either maintenance or power parts....

 

[ZSHO]

FYI -There was no harm intended IMO and Let's keep our discussions grounded and straight to the point! TIA. Z

 

[SHOdded]

Def no harm no foul.  Simply speaking to the tremendous bang for the buck this mod is.

Budgeting is part of everyone's process for things like this.  It IS hard to look at things happening, want those things to happen to YOUR vehicle, but have to defer or forgo it completely.  Many a time I have been in that boat, and I am sure many others have as well.  As they say, food, clothing, housing come first.  Paying bills can be a b****.

 

[ajpturbo]

Does this intercooler make meth unnecessary?

No. But depends on your goals and use of the car. The intercooler won't add octane. But there are many benefits that you get besides octane. But the cooler temps afforded to you from the upgraded intercooler will give benefits without octane.

This intercooler will help people more than they realize. It's awesome. And I think the cost is reasonable to say the least. This wasn't your run of the mill intercooler development. Most cars have them right upfront in the grill. Ford blessed the SHO with having the intercooler buried.

This is going to help so much when the temps are hot.

 

[Agentlongwood]

Not everyone has spendable fun money or a performance part budget.

This is me, lol.  I want the dang intercooler so dang bad... and the price seems right.  But man it's hard to get $850 Approved from the Willful Internal Finance Executive.

 

[bpd1151]

  But man it's hard to get $850 Approved from the Willful Internal Finance Executive.

Ha! This made me chuckle.

Thus why y'all need to set aside some secret stash money for exactly these types of purchases.

I wish you and others good luck in those efforts.

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[Agentlongwood]

Some day... I mean we don't keep secrets, but my "side money" is going to paying my student loans for the foreseeable future.  Sometimes we end up going overboard with the penny pinching, but she does keep me on the straight and narrow.  All things considered it's pretty good.  She's a keeper, lol. 

 

[StealBlueSHO]

Installed mine yesterday... thanks Jordan for the video!

Couple notes...

The fender lining on my SHO didn’t have screws connecting to the bumper. It was 7/32 bolts. Yes, not metric... weird, curious if anyone runs into that?

My drain plug was on the passenger side of the radiator.

If you have a PP you need to remove the aux trans cooler to gain EASY access to the passenger side condenser bolt.

You can just remove the 5 plastic screws from the bottom splash guard connecting to the bumper lip. You don’t need to remove the bottom lip as depicted in the video.

Don’t forget to swap the metal screw clips from the old IC to the new one for the condenser.

I went through 1.5 Gallons of coolant.

IAT at the manifold has greatly been reduced. After sitting it doesn’t take long afterwards to clear the hot air out. When driving in 60F temps I have yet to see anything over 100F. It seems to be happy 20F-30F above ambient when cruising  and doesn’t heat soak (yet in my testing).

Will be interested in comparing logs between last year at the track and this year.

Like I told Matt... the added weight over the front tires might help at the track ;-)

 

[Jordan]

7/32 is about 5.5mm so could be either or. Drain plug is dependant on build date no clue where each cut off is. Matt said his was passenger as well, mine was driver. The aux cooler was definitely an after thought LOL. Nice you got it finished up.

On other news did an o2 sensor today in mine. Had one hitting the crapper.

 

[sm105k]

Just bit the bullet and purchased my intercooler. Going to throw her on the rollers next week to see what she does pre and post IC install.  430 hp and over 510 tq would be pretty damn cool. 

 

[StealBlueSHO]

7/32 is about 5.5mm so could be either or. Drain plug is dependant on build date no clue where each cut off is. Matt said his was passenger as well, mine was driver. The aux cooler was definitely an after thought LOL. Nice you got it finished up.

On other news did an o2 sensor today in mine. Had one hitting the crapper.

7/32 fits like a glove. 5mm was too small and 6mm was too big. Trust me, when everything else on this car is metric I was a little surprised. I actually tried 2 different 5mm sockets just make sure I wasn’t going crazy.

I wonder if any late MY 2016+ guys can confirm if theirs is the same. My build date is 11/2016.  If not, then I wonder if this car was in an accident.

 

[802SHO]

Just bit the bullet and purchased my intercooler. Going to throw her on the rollers next week to see what she does pre and post IC install.  430 hp and over 510 tq would be pretty damn cool.

I must be waiting for an engraved invitation lol I just want to complete my first year of the new business taxes before I make a move on it.  Look forward to your dyno results ....pretty cool youre doing that! 

 

[sm105k]

Just bit the bullet and purchased my intercooler. Going to throw her on the rollers next week to see what she does pre and post IC install.  430 hp and over 510 tq would be pretty damn cool.

I must be waiting for an engraved invitation lol I just want to complete my first year of the new business taxes before I make a move on it.  Look forward to your dyno results ....pretty cool youre doing that!

Yeah, I am pretty excited.  It will knock out two birds with one stone. I need the IC for the AZ heat, and I need to swap the coolant and throw in a new T-stat. 

I think with the IC, a new E30 tune for said intercooler, and DP's (later) the car will go into the 11's pretty consistently. I like to document changes with dyno and track results.  $120 for 3 pulls is a no brainer for the data.

 

[802SHO]

Just bit the bullet and purchased my intercooler. Going to throw her on the rollers next week to see what she does pre and post IC install.  430 hp and over 510 tq would be pretty damn cool.

I must be waiting for an engraved invitation lol I just want to complete my first year of the new business taxes before I make a move on it.  Look forward to your dyno results ....pretty cool youre doing that!

Yeah, I am pretty excited.  It will knock out two birds with one stone. I need the IC for the AZ heat, and I need to swap the coolant and throw in a new T-stat. 

I think with the IC, a new E30 tune for said intercooler, and DP's (later) the car will go into the 11's pretty consistently. I like to document changes with dyno and track results.  $120 for 3 pulls is a no brainer for the data.

You're definitely doing us all a service by sharing those results as a lot of us have not been to a dyno, including myself.  Testing on the track is one thing but alone its just not enough info.  I did locate a dyno in NH Id like use.  I would prefer to tell someone what the car actually makes versus saying the words (estimated at about......)

 

[bpd1151]

You're definitely doing us all a service by sharing those results as a lot of us have not been to a dyno, including myself.  Testing on the track is one thing but alone its just not enough info.  I did locate a dyno in NH Id like use.  I would prefer to tell someone what the car actually makes versus saying the words (estimated at about......)

1st, I agree with this sentiment.

2nd, I find it just plain funny to read, as so many dispel dyno's, and the info they provide, and instead, bolster datalogging and claim dyno's don't mean poo poo.

I suppose there's an arguement for both perspectives. I just found it ironic.

Refreshing, but ironic.

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[sm105k]

Just bit the bullet and purchased my intercooler. Going to throw her on the rollers next week to see what she does pre and post IC install.  430 hp and over 510 tq would be pretty damn cool.

I must be waiting for an engraved invitation lol I just want to complete my first year of the new business taxes before I make a move on it.  Look forward to your dyno results ....pretty cool youre doing that!

Yeah, I am pretty excited.  It will knock out two birds with one stone. I need the IC for the AZ heat, and I need to swap the coolant and throw in a new T-stat. 

I think with the IC, a new E30 tune for said intercooler, and DP's (later) the car will go into the 11's pretty consistently. I like to document changes with dyno and track results.  $120 for 3 pulls is a no brainer for the data.

You're definitely doing us all a service by sharing those results as a lot of us have not been to a dyno, including myself.  Testing on the track is one thing but alone its just not enough info.  I did locate a dyno in NH Id like use.  I would prefer to tell someone what the car actually makes versus saying the words (estimated at about......)

I enjoy chronicling what my SHO does. I want to see what each mod does.  I want to document it and have the information.  I am actually lucky because I have extreme weather as well.  Extreme heat and moderate cold.  It is really enlightening to see what just temp and DA can do to a car. Literally everything I have done to my car is in this thread: https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/couple-of-goals.138235/  I will keep updating the thread step by step until the car leaves my life.

I have the ability to use both the track and the dyno to verify differences and results.  To me, the dyno is a tool. It can show a couple of things and give a ball park number of the actual number output. Plus all the information we can get on the datalogs is damn important. The dyno that I use has been pretty close.  Mike from EcoPowerParts did alot of his testing on this dyno too.  So they are familiar with platform. 

The king in IMHO is.....trap speed and weight.  I know my car weighs 4560 with me in it and it usually goes 112 miles per hours in the 1/4.  It takes 480 hp to move 4560lbs @ 112 mph in a 1/4 mile.  Take 20% drive line loss....from 480 hp - 96 hp = 386 hp to the tire.... Math says 386 hp, and the dyno says 391 hp.  I would say that is damn close.   

Give me a couple of weeks for the install.  I leave for World's Strongest Logger Thursday, and get back on Sunday night.  Then the Saturday after I have to defend my title as Arizona's Strongest Man on the 16th.  Hopefully on Sunday the 17th I can tear her apart and get her back together.  We shall see if I can still walk that is...

 

[StealBlueSHO]

Finally a nice day to open the SHO up to see how the new IC holds up. I can say that the butt dyno notices a difference during the few pulls I did..

I’ll write up a review as I usually do... but temps at the manifold would drop quick and significantly....

Very happy with the latest modification and the data points to real world improvements.

Hats off to GH for this one.

 

[sm105k]

Finally a nice day to open the SHO up to see how the new IC holds up. I can say that the butt dyno notices a difference during the few pulls I did..

I’ll write up a review as I usually do... but temps at the manifold would drop quick and significantly....

Very happy with the latest modification and the data points to real world improvements.

Hats off to GH for this one.

Nice, I look forward to your review. You always give top notch information.