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[Skibbidy1731]

I asked this question in another thread, but it wasn't the best place to post it. My question is this: is there a 89 octane tune out there? I have seen 87/91/93 but never heard or seen anything about 89. Where I live 89 is much easier to come by and cheaper than 93(91 is rare where I'm at). Just want to get a little more performance out of my vehicle, but the large price difference between 87 and 93 holds me back. And the fact it can be harder to locate.

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[bigmoneycloser]

I'm almost positive LMS has a 89 tune...

 

[Skibbidy1731]

I'm almost positive LMS has a 89 tune...

Anyone out there able to confirm? And if they do any estimate of the performance gain?

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[DJE624]

You could try emailing tuning @livernoismotorsports.com

 

[Skibbidy1731]

You could try emailing tuning @livernoismotorsports.com

Just emailed lms. I asked them if there is a 2014 tune and of they have a 89 octane tune(and what estimated performance gain would be)
Will post back their response when I get it.

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[EcoBrick Bob]

Torrie can tune for 89.  Not a big deal.

Where are you from?  In Iowa, we have had 89 octane E-10 for like 20+ years, until recently.  Now everything is blended and E-10 is 87.  I understand that this is a decision from the Refiners and will ultimately affect everyone in US.  Mason City IA Murphy used to have 89,91,93 E-10... Now no 89. Cedar Falls Murphy now is 87 & 93 E-10.  Here in Naples, FL Costco has been 87 & 93 E-10 for as long as I can remember.  On our recent trip from IA to FL, I never saw 89 one time.  Used to be prevalent.

 

[Skibbidy1731]

Torrie can tune for 89.  Not a big deal.

Where are you from?  In Iowa, we have had 89 octane E-10 for like 20+ years, until recently.  Now everything is blended and E-10 is 87.  I understand that this is a decision from the Refiners and will ultimately affect everyone in US.  Mason City IA Murphy used to have 89,91,93 E-10... Now no 89. Cedar Falls Murphy now is 87 & 93 E-10.  Here in Naples, FL Costco has been 87 & 93 E-10 for as long as I can remember.  On our recent trip from IA to FL, I never saw 89 one time.  Used to be prevalent.

Any idea of the performance gains with the 89 tune?

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[DJE624]

I know you are trying to save on gas but if you can get 93, I would try to go for that.  You should get a little better mileage with a tune too.  At least when you get your tunes, if you have a choice include the 93 with a couple others.  They usually give you three tunes.  Like I have 2 93 tunes and a 91 in case I travel and can't get 93. 

EDIT- But, if you switch from lower to higher octane make sure you run the tank down first.  And no WOTs until you run a gallon or so of it through the fuel system.

 

[TSS]

I agree ^^.  93 is the way to go if you have already spent good money on an SHO and then more good money on a tune.    Don't skimp on octane if 93 is available to you.  It's like buying a nice SHO, then trying to skimp and buy cheap wax or cheap oil.  Its peanuts compared to your overall investment and spending the minimal amount more will result in more smiles.

 

[Skibbidy1731]

I guess another reason I'm hesitant on the more expensive fuel is simply the fact that I will never take out to a track. I spend 90% of the time going to and from work in busy traffic. So I don't have much of an opportunity for fun. But when the opportunity presents itself I like to be able to put my foot down and have an enjoyable ride.

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[bigmoneycloser]

I guess another reason I'm hesitant on the more expensive fuel is simply the fact that I will never take out to a track. I spend 90% of the time going to and from work in busy traffic. So I don't have much of an opportunity for fun. But when the opportunity presents itself I like to be able to put my foot down and have an enjoyable ride.

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I will never be at the track either... But once you try the 93.... You won't go backwards... You just won't..lol
It is great for everyday driving including my work commute..

 

[Skibbidy1731]

I guess another reason I'm hesitant on the more expensive fuel is simply the fact that I will never take out to a track. I spend 90% of the time going to and from work in busy traffic. So I don't have much of an opportunity for fun. But when the opportunity presents itself I like to be able to put my foot down and have an enjoyable ride.

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I will never be at the track either... But once you try the 93.... You won't go backwards... You just won't..lol
It is great for everyday driving including my work commute..

Thanks. That is exactly what I needed to hear. What kind of mpg are most getting on the 93 tune?

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[bigmoneycloser]

I guess another reason I'm hesitant on the more expensive fuel is simply the fact that I will never take out to a track. I spend 90% of the time going to and from work in busy traffic. So I don't have much of an opportunity for fun. But when the opportunity presents itself I like to be able to put my foot down and have an enjoyable ride.

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I will never be at the track either... But once you try the 93.... You won't go backwards... You just won't..lol
It is great for everyday driving including my work commute..

Thanks. That is exactly what I needed to hear. What kind of mpg are most getting on the 93 tune?

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I'm getting about 16-17 mpg city on my XSport. It could be better but I'm all over the gas...lol
Stock is only 18 I think

 

[DJE624]

I have been up over 28 on country roads, tollway and cruising through a few small towns combined.

 

[QwikEVO]

You buy a $40K+ car and you're worried about $.15-.20/gallon?

 

[TSS]

I also will not be going to the track. Ever. But if I'm going to spend the money on a tune, I'm going to maximize the potential.

 

[EcoBrick Bob]

I agree ^^.  93 is the way to go if you have already spent good money on an SHO and then more good money on a tune.    Don't skimp on octane if 93 is available to you.  It's like buying a nice SHO, then trying to skimp and buy cheap wax or cheap oil.  Its peanuts compared to your overall investment and spending the minimal amount more will result in more smiles.

While I don't worry about gas prices, except that I am really anal about getting the best local price... I have been stuck driving my 93+ exotic methanol tuned Flex where I forgot to buy gas before I had to buy 89 E-10 ( this was 2 years ago before they have eliminated e-10).  What did I do.. I drove like a GRANDMA... or  like a MOBIL ECONOMY RUN WINNER!!!  The ECM will retard your spark to protect your engine.. but if the gas is really crappy.. you might get some ping. 

Another option is to MIX your gas at the pump.. Go to a 93 station and put in 1/2 87 and 1/2 93. Or.. if you are looking for 89.. do 2/3 1/3  or whatever trips your trigger.

 

[Skibbidy1731]

You buy a $40K+ car and you're worried about $.15-.20/gallon?

The difference between 87 and 93 at my local gas station is .50. I usually have to fill up twice a week because of the amount of driving I do. That figures up to an extra 1000 a year by switching. On top of a higher car payment and higher insurance.

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[Skibbidy1731]

I agree ^^.  93 is the way to go if you have already spent good money on an SHO and then more good money on a tune.    Don't skimp on octane if 93 is available to you.  It's like buying a nice SHO, then trying to skimp and buy cheap wax or cheap oil.  Its peanuts compared to your overall investment and spending the minimal amount more will result in more smiles.

While I don't worry about gas prices, except that I am really anal about getting the best local price... I have been stuck driving my 93+ exotic methanol tuned Flex where I forgot to buy gas before I had to buy 89 E-10 ( this was 2 years ago before they have eliminated e-10).  What did I do.. I drove like a GRANDMA... or  like a MOBIL ECONOMY RUN WINNER!!!  The ECM will retard your spark to protect your engine.. but if the gas is really crappy.. you might get some ping. 

Another option is to MIX your gas at the pump.. Go to a 93 station and put in 1/2 87 and 1/2 93. Or.. if you are looking for 89.. do 2/3 1/3  or whatever trips your trigger.

that must have been a depressing day having to drive your car like a grandma lol

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[jomc111]

If you really want to save money on fuel. Find  a grocery store  that gives kick backs on fuel for money spent at there store.

I go to kroger her in MI they use a point system but give 2x points on giftcards everynow and then will do 4x points so o buy gift cards for home improvement stores ect.
Basically I always get $1.00 off gas every time I fill up mine and my wifes car. It may seem a little annoying but were usually there every couple days buying food any way .