Did you go from stock to the performance tune, or from the MPG to performance tune. I would try a KAM reset before loading the performance tune. Maybe the tune has the throttle body on "alert", so it prepositions it, for example. Definitely a question for Torrie.
oil ingestion and tuning
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I've tried going tune to tune, stock to tune, the only one that messes up is the performance tune, and I can assure you the software and strategy didn't change again I did the PCM cal update myself.
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So same same with the performance tune. Torrie has sent me 2 new files and none of the performance tunes will crank. The last one dodnt even come up with the menu to edit parameters like speed limiter and advance and stuff. I think just like a bare bones 'here this is for your mods' what frustrates me even further is he has no input at all. He is so well known and talked up. .. like if the mpg tune works, why wouldnt the performance? This is a 2016 and if this keeps up im gonna go trade it in while it might still have some low milage positive equity.. then of course all my parts will be up for grabs on here but id rather just have a working [performance] tune... anybody else on here have issues after pcm update?
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He asked to pull the *.bef file from the tuner and send it to him. From what i understand its the stock configuration the x4 saves when flashing the latest file. He did say hes created xompletely new files. For the latest tune he sent me. I told him i think its weird the mpg tune would work but that one (s) wont turn over. Hopefully hell be able to figure something out with the *.bef. .. im still in a window for positive equity. Trading for a fiesta st i lose my 3rd row seats but cut my payment by like 200+. Because at the end of the day even if/when the tune works theres still oil in the manifold 
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Update Ok so o pulled the .bef file and sent it to torrie as he asked and he said it had to go to tech analysis. I offered two plausible possibilities just speculating that if the pcm update was the tsb directive for the vct code p0012 perhaps theres a cam timing inconsistency, i also mentioned ajp's corrupt file suggestion although i've tried 3 or 4 different files at this point. He has a hunch it could be a checksum error although im not sure what that means. That fiesta st is starting to look better and better....
I think he may be copying his values the wrong way to the new file...something is not happy obviously...when certain values are changed that shouldnt be the checksums will be wrong...sct exposes tables that probably never need to be changed...if your new stratgy has a different value in that field and he copied it over from the old performance tune then that can do it....im speculating though as i have no idea how he went about the update
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AJP turbo said:
Originally he said the original tune was mirrored to go with my mods, but updated for the new strategy. The mpg tune works fine but ive been going back and forth for a week or so now as im on 12's and have a toddler, its hard to make time for this stuff. I hope we get to the bottom of it soon.
Ha, we have first hand experience with this.AJP turbo said:
To the OP, when AJP and I were running through some test to disable advance trac on the non-pp we found that there are values that SCT allows you to change that the ECU can't process depending on strategy. What happened to me when I loaded those values via a tune was the car wouldn't crank over. But for some reason would corrupt the stock tune file. Inside then gen those Gen2100 errors when I tried to roll back to stock.
Anyway, in short, sounds like a dorked tune from Torrie.
Calls SCT, explain to the error, they will take your stock file, create a rescue file, which will repull your stock setting from the ECU if you are having issues getting your stock tune back onto the car if Torrie is concerned about a corrupt stock file. BUT if you can revert you car back to stock without an issue, in doubt the stock file bad.
Correct me if I am wrong AJP but the sct tunes just overlay new values onto the stock tune?
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Actually steal blue sct said your stock file was not corrupt but it was more like the device thought the ecu was a different one that was married to another device because of the changed tune items i guess
An sct doesnt overlay in top of the stock values. When a tuner changes values in the tune for custom tuning you change the values and flash just like ford would do for a tune update...they call it a strategy change but they dont have to, they could call it rev 2 if they wanted
You could call fords base tune a ford custom tune if you wanted
An sct doesnt overlay in top of the stock values. When a tuner changes values in the tune for custom tuning you change the values and flash just like ford would do for a tune update...they call it a strategy change but they dont have to, they could call it rev 2 if they wanted
You could call fords base tune a ford custom tune if you wanted
Ah, they told me my stock file got corrupted, although I know you spoke them a bit more at length about it and ALOT more knowledgeable about than my input, good to know!
I read somewhere sct just overlays new values onto the stock tune and flashes the ecu, that's why the tuner requires that it download the stock file from the ecu first?
Thanks for the clarification!!
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I read somewhere sct just overlays new values onto the stock tune and flashes the ecu, that's why the tuner requires that it download the stock file from the ecu first?
Thanks for the clarification!!
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No problems swapping back to stock just the performance tune doesnt want to work. Whay has me baffled is the mpg tune works fine. Performance does not.. Not to worried at this point.taking sunday to throw my stock parts back on. And go trade it in the mext few weeks. Probly go back to another tacoma or something. Downside. Mama loses third row seats and daddy loses twin turbos. Owell. Even if it was botched id just grab my crap from work and reflash with ford files.
Why would you have to use your crap from work?..just use the device to return to stock?...
I wouldnt trade in a car over a failed tune lol...just find another tuner,the market is flooded with calibrators
How do you go to a fiesta from and explorer?..i think you just want one and need a reason lol
ultimately you simply have a bad tune and are dealing with the wrong person...i feel bad its going to cost you a car and lose thousands on a trade....you always lose on a trade...simply has to be that way....if you think dont feel ripped off then you just tolerate a good hole beating
I wouldnt trade in a car over a failed tune lol...just find another tuner,the market is flooded with calibrators
How do you go to a fiesta from and explorer?..i think you just want one and need a reason lol
ultimately you simply have a bad tune and are dealing with the wrong person...i feel bad its going to cost you a car and lose thousands on a trade....you always lose on a trade...simply has to be that way....if you think dont feel ripped off then you just tolerate a good hole beating
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Its not just the failed tune weve been tossing around the idea of a new truck for a minute or another small car loke the fiesta ST. Trading this beast in might even let us pay off our other car and be down to one car payment if i can finagle it. I just see a lot of problems like... oil on the spark plugs for example. Kinda makes me wanna toss it like a hot rock before more problems arise. Oil in the manifold, mentioned earlier in the thread .... the crap from work would be if the stock file somehow got corrupted.
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She gone. Parts for sale post coming soon. Found us a double cab tacoma in a stick. Longevity, resale value, versatility of a truck, and reputation for dependability.. not even sure im gonna mod it much. Leaves me more money for my fish tanks and guns.. maybe floor liners or an intake, or step bars for the kids.
I cant believe it!!!!.due make sure you post a pic with your username on a piece of paper next to each item up for sale as per rules of the forum,good luck and thanks. Z http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,30.0.html