HIGHPSI said:Black99 and Vernon.... I'm curious as I am trying to get to the bottom of the smoking issue myself.. Do you still have the third cat on your car?
FoMoCoSHO said:This is correctcrash712us said:Keep in mind there is supposed to be a update PVC system to be available soon. Remember reading something about it in a new TSB.
I will post up the number in a bit.
That's what I've been thinking of actually, it seems as if the problem is delivery of oil to/from the turbo. In my opinion, in order to have efficient delivery of oil you need a closed, air-tight system as it is pressurized to delivery the oil. FMC faulty oil-return lines probably were either too small or not creating a tight seal and causing some oil to leak out (reason for the TSB).
As such, having poor oil flow to/from the turbo's could result in fried seals (which some people are seeing) or inconsistent blue smoking from the oil being burnt.
Thoughts on this?
TSB reference ASI-32211.Spartn27 said:I posted this in another thread about the smoking problem so I'll go ahead and post it here. The people who are experiencing the smoking, did you have the TSB done on the oil return line for the turbos?
That's what I've been thinking of actually, it seems as if the problem is delivery of oil to/from the turbo. In my opinion, in order to have efficient delivery of oil you need a closed, air-tight system as it is pressurized to delivery the oil. FMC faulty oil-return lines probably were either too small or not creating a tight seal and causing some oil to leak out (reason for the TSB).
As such, having poor oil flow to/from the turbo's could result in fried seals (which some people are seeing) or inconsistent blue smoking from the oil being burnt.
Thoughts on this?
ZSHO said:TSB reference ASI-32211.
Code:
21930 3.5L GTDI ENGINES BUILT BEFORE 1/11/2010 - TURBO OIL DRAIN TUBE GASKET NO LONGER AVAILABLE - REVISED TURBO OIL TUBE AVAILABLE
FOR 2010 TAURUS, FLEX, MKS, AND MKT VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH THE 3.5L ECOBOOST ENGINE, WITH ENGINE BUILD DATE BEFORE 1/11/2010, THE GASKET BETWEEN THE TURBO CHARGER AND TURBO CHARGER OIL RETURN TUBE FLANGE IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE FOR SERVICE REQUIRING THE PURCHASE OF A TUBE ASSEMBLY (BASE 9T515.) TO DETERMINE THE VEHICLES ENGINE BUILD DATE, REFER TO WORKSHOP MANUAL SECTION 303-01B. NOTE: DO NOT ATTEMPT TO INSTALL THE UPDATED AVAILABLE GASKET ON AN OLDER TUBE.
EFFECTIVE DATE: 06/20/2011
Code:
21759 2010-2011 TAURUS SHO, MKS, FLEX, AND MKT 3.5L ECOBOOST TURBO CHARGER OIL FEED AND RETURN LINE OIL LEAKS.
SOME 2010-2011 MODEL YEAR VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A 3.5L GTDI (ECOBOOST) ENGINE MAY EXHIBIT AN OIL LEAK FROM THE TURBOCHARGER OIL FEED LINE AT THE BANJO BOLT CONNECTION OR THE SEAL ON THE OIL RETURN LINES. THESE LEAKS MAY APPEAR TO BE COMING FROM THE TURBOCHARGER ITSELF. CLOSELY INSPECT THE BANJO BOLT SEALS ON THE FEED LINE AND SEALS ON THE RETURN LINE FOR LEAKS AND REPAIR AS NECESSARY. CLEAN ALL ACCUMULATED RESIDUAL OIL FROM THE TURBOCHARGER V-CLAMP. DO NOT LOOSEN OR REMOVE THE V-CLAMP FOR CLEANING. TURBOCHARGER REPLACEMENT WILL NOT RESOLVE THIS SYMPTOM.
EFFECTIVE DATE: 03/01/2011
If your thinking of a better-than-stock PCV solution remember your turbos and changes in pressure they create. Check out RX Performance catch cans and Cleanside Separator... JimiJak is our local expert. Tracy, the vendor , s extremely helpful and a member here... Aka tuner boost, shoot one of them a pm.black99lightning said:i'm almost positive I've not had any TSB performed. Have the smokers done anything to their PCV systems? Mine is all stock. I'm looking at a JLT seperator and a CFM valve cover breather.
http://www.c-f-m.com/performanceparts/pc/CFM-Performance-Billet-Valve-Cover-Breather-Kit-for-2005-2014-Mustang-GT-V6-2p86.htm#.VCw5o2ddUmc
but as of now completely stock.
HIGHPSI said:Black99 and Vernon.... I'm curious as I am trying to get to the bottom of the smoking issue myself.. Do you still have the third cat on your car?
BiGMaC said:If your thinking of a better-than-stock PCV solution remember your turbos and changes in pressure they create. Check out RX Performance catch cans and Cleanside Separator... JimiJak is our local expert. Tracy, the vendor , s extremely helpful and a member here... Aka tuner boost, shoot one of them a pm.black99lightning said:i'm almost positive I've not had any TSB performed. Have the smokers done anything to their PCV systems? Mine is all stock. I'm looking at a JLT seperator and a CFM valve cover breather.
http://www.c-f-m.com/performanceparts/pc/CFM-Performance-Billet-Valve-Cover-Breather-Kit-for-2005-2014-Mustang-GT-V6-2p86.htm#.VCw5o2ddUmc
but as of now completely stock.
http://www.revxtreme.com/rx-catch-cans
vernonator said:HIGHPSI said:Black99 and Vernon.... I'm curious as I am trying to get to the bottom of the smoking issue myself.. Do you still have the third cat on your car?
yes - my exhaust is stock except for the Catless DP's
black99lightning said:vernonator said:HIGHPSI said:Black99 and Vernon.... I'm curious as I am trying to get to the bottom of the smoking issue myself.. Do you still have the third cat on your car?
yes - my exhaust is stock except for the Catless DP's
So we're the same. Any PCV/catch can mods? I'm stock on that front also.