Simoniz Professional GlassCoat Suggestions?

[14SHOCAR]

Have any of you used GlassCoat before? I have access to GlassCoat (ignoring the fact that the bottle says ILLEGAL TO RESALE). Apparently the procedure is to clean your car, lightly apply the coat and buff it off before it "completely dries".

http://www.simonizprofessional.com/business/Content/Simoniz_GlassCoat_1.asp

This stuff was featured on Modern Marvels, and supposedly bonds to the clear coat on a molecular level. They say you will not need to wax your car for 7 years! The stuff is about $60.00 a box and the bottles are pretty small... Thoughts?

 

[SHOdded]

The best stuff out there IMHO is CQuartz Finest/UK, and that has a 2 year guarantee, can last longer with proper maintenance.  I don't know about 7 years, maybe if your car is garage kept most of the time?  I'd read the fine print.  For example, how difficult is it to apply, does it work with all types of paints, does it have to fail completely all over the car for the warranty to be valid, are there installers out there, etc.  Kinda like Ford's rust protection warranty.  Don't count on surface rust to get a warranty claim, it has to be perforation.

As far as bonding molecularly, that's basic chemistry.  Everything "bonds" else it wouldn't stick.  So ignore that marketing stuff.

 

[14SHOCAR]

Shodded -- apparently it bonds differently than other waxes... due to the way it bonds, it lasts significantly longer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdI5w05pOww

Also pictures from my buddy acquired some:

 

[66 Galaxie]

Have not used it but it looks like a competitor to CQuart and Opticoat which have gotten good reviews.

 

[BiGMaC]

I am a CQuart Finest user.... Had it applied to the SHO about 17-18 months ago. 50cc did 2 coats on the whole car.  These are coatings and can only be removed mechanically. They are thicker than the paint, at least Quart is... There is not a scratch or spider on the car yet.  I have never waxed the car or applied anything to the finish since coating except CQuart Reload every 3-4 months (15 min, $5).  I decontaminate the finish every 3 months using a foam cannon and Iron-X wheel cleaner.  At work it sits in the AZ sun all day, it's a DD, and I live on an unpaved road.  Doesn't attract dust, wet look shine, resists chemicals and bird bombs... Car is coated in ceramic, literally... the coating is clear (some look a little yellow to me and show up that way on reflectance meters.  Also, the Quart Finest actually rates about 2.5 on the MOHS hardness scale, diamonds are 10, but paint doesn't rate. 

Note:The trick to any coating is the paint correction first!!!  Otherwise you get shiny scratches.

Here is a ink to my 4 month update
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,2351.msg34077.html#msg34077

Here ins a link to the Mar 2015 update:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,4515.msg70244.html#msg70244

There is not a scratch on my car. Nothing sticks.  I get most of the water off it with a garden hose. Run off angle is 5 degrees

I love this stuff... it added 4-5 days of time to my year as well as looking great (IMHO)... here are a few pics from the original application you can compare to the pics in the updates:

 

[14SHOCAR]

What is this "plastic correction" you talk of in your signature?

 

[BiGMaC]

What is this "plastic correction" you talk of in your signature?

As an overview... my benchmark is that the finish should look like polished glass... I use the reflectivity of the sunroof vs the coated finish to judge.

The tails and HLs are covered with small scratches... I promise... I had the plastic (lights and the B pillars corrected and coated too.... here's a pic of the after:

Of course, I've blacked out the tails since, LOL... but the B pillars look great still...and the painted pockets of the flower wheels too!

 

[bee615]

Opticoat is a tremendous product.  I coated my matte black wheels when I first got them and they still look perfect after a brutal NJ winter.

 

[BiGMaC]

Opticoat is a tremendous product.  I coated my matte black wheels when I first got them and they still look perfect after a brutal NJ winter.

I agree!... Optical and CQuart Finest are the two industry leaders currently. Since they are semipermanent I personally can't recommend other products... I felt like i was experimenting with the overall appearance of my car when I first did it.

 

[14SHOCAR]

What about keeping the bottom plastic from fading/looking shiney? Any Suggestions?

I once made the mistake of putting "back to black" on my trim pieces only for it to permanently causing a white haze on the trim after it starting wearing off.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

Opticoat is a tremendous product.  I coated my matte black wheels when I first got them and they still look perfect after a brutal NJ winter.

I agree!... Optical and CQuart Finest are the two industry leaders currently. Since they are semipermanent I personally can't recommend other products... I felt like i was experimenting with the overall appearance of my car when I first did it.

Did someone say cquartz?

 

[SHOdded]

Products like Carpro DLux/PERL will keep your exterior trim looking great without adding unwanted glossiness.

 

[14SHOCAR]

Did someone say cquartz?

DAAAAAAAMN that shine!

One more questions for you.... did you clay bar the car before you applied the cquarts?

 

[SHOdded]

Wash - decontaminate (Tardis/TarX/IronX) - clay bar (or clay substitute) - fix any scratches with paint - polish - IPA - THEN CQuartz/Opticoat/coating of choice.

 

[BiGMaC]

Did someone say cquartz?

DAAAAAAAMN that shine!

One more questions for you.... did you clay bar the car before you applied the cquarts?

Nope., did Iron-X on the whole car and then 2 people worked together for 30 hours to correct paint on a brand new car!  Worth the $750!  Almost no orange peel.

 

[double c]

Getting new 2016-born on 7/28/2015-Explorer Sport CQuartz'ed on Sept 11-12.  Can't wait to see when done.  May not enhance shine as much on lighter color (Ingot Silver) as on darker ones, but up-keep should be easier. Getting too old to spend time on waxing 3-4 times per year.  Plus this is bigger than SHO. Detailer had three offerings-Opticoat/CQuartz Finest/Modesta in what he said was a good/better/best ladder.  Went with middle offering as that seems to have most known qualities.  Modesta-way expensive.
Will find out soon. 

 

[BiGMaC]

Getting new 2016-born on 7/28/2015-Explorer Sport CQuartz'ed on Sept 11-12.  Can't wait to see when done.  May not enhance shine as much on lighter color (Ingot Silver) as on darker ones, but up-keep should be easier. Getting too old to spend time on waxing 3-4 times per year.  Plus this is bigger than SHO. Detailer had three offerings-Opticoat/CQuartz Finest/Modesta in what he said was a good/better/best ladder.  Went with middle offering as that seems to have most known qualities.  Modesta-way expensive.
Will find out soon. 

You will love it... A whole new depth of shine that won't go away!
Check out my threads (just search CQuart Finest).... I am 21 months into mine... Still looks like it did when it was put on by my detail guy. No swirls/spiders or scratches still and I have never waxed the car... I did have a paint correction done first as the dealer maintenance on his lot had put a lot of swirls on the car... I absolutely love it. ... I decontaminate the finish with Iron-X about every 4 months in my foam cannon and do apply CarPro Reload (20 minutes and no pressure at that time.... About a dollar's worth does it. I wash the car with the Chemical Guys Greenstuff in a foam cannon, rinse, blow dry.  No need to rub 'cause stuff just won't stuck to it. They will warrant the finish and your paint for 2 years, but it lasts a lot longer (I have a friend who is about 4 years into it and still looks new). MUCH better than any wax or paint sealer I've ever used...bar none... and chemicals, bugs, and bird bombs won't stick or etch the finish...

 

[SHOdded]

Can't wait to see before/during/after pics, double c!  Americoat is one of the newer, more affordable offerings on the market, don't know yet whether it holds up like CQuartz.  If you really wanted to, you could still get the X waxed for extra pop

 

[ajpturbo]

So this has been on my list to do...when I got my sho that's when I first learned about it...dealer wanted 900 for the service and said that public could not get the stuff...I knew better.

Big Mac do u prefer simonize glass coat or cquart? I'm guessing they are the same?

 

[BiGMaC]

So this has been on my list to do...when I got my sho that's when I first learned about it...dealer wanted 900 for the service and said that public could not get the stuff...I knew better.

Big Mac do u prefer simonize glass coat or cquart? I'm guessing they are the same?

I admit ignorance about the Simonize coating...I thought it was just a paint sealer... So I'll defer that.
As far as pricing... I paid $250 for the CQuart Finest (this is done by CarProcertified applies only), but even on my car new after a few months on the dealer lot there was  lot of spidering, swirls, and other finish damage due to bad practices there.... So I also had a paint correction done which took two people working together for 30 hours and cost $750. My time and no need for waxing (which will actually dull the shine of CQuart as measured on a reflectometer) has  paint for my costs. There is a consumer version of CQuart available in a kit for about $150 or so as I remember. Application has a significant learning curve to avoid streaking though... A lot of extra wiping with a damp MF towel is needed to remove the streaking before it starts curing... If you do it work on a cool shaded car and small sections only. With either one you can drive in a couple of hours, but shouldn't get the car wet or wash it for 7 days until full bonding to the paint occurs.
Opti coat is tougher, but to my eye has a yellow caste on a car. There are newer paint coatings (differentiate from sealants!)... They may be equivalent, but I'm super happy with the CQuart finest.