Smoke out the exhaust

Try PM'ing Chris at Livernois.  He is quite active on this forum, so hopefully he will have a solution for you.
 
I would hope, given the fact that so many people are potentially going to purchase these upgraded turbo's, that stepping up to the plate, and "making it right" so to speak, wouldn't even have to be mentioned.

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I'm not getting a warm and fuzzy feeling about this now.

I was planning to drop the six grand in January to get the turbo and meth installed.

I will be actively watching this. Curious on its resolution.

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Same here, this has me very concerned. But we need to keep in mind we have half the story, and those of us that have been on the dyno know that **** happens. Such as a burned up meth controller or unresponsive O2's, so things go wrong that are no ones fault. Its a part of the game for performance. Now whether LMS chooses to comment on this individual case on the forum is up to them, but I know it will be question they will have answer to me before I have any of these mods done. But we have to keep in mind each mod has its own risks, this maybe one of them. So hopefully some light can be shed on the subject, so all can benefit from this unfortunate case.
 
That's a pretty big Ouch.  And Im with turbo Dave on the smoke.  Their is a ton of other platforms that plus 11k would create much faster cars.  Wow...
 
The thing that stinks is I got the car dropped of in the pouring rain, drove it for 1 mile and parked it.  Next day I put the plates on and drove it to get it inspected, and at this point the smoke was prevalent.  I emailed Andy, and he mentioned the car may need to be driven as much as 800 miles for the "new" turbo seals to seat.

Last email the turbo builder ma have not even touched the seals when they were apart......  Turbos had 174 miles on them when the build started.  I received the car with 675 miles.

I am hopeful that Livernois will step up and help me out......  Time will tell.  Either way I am out of the use of my car, and all the extra expenses, again.

Mike
 
Why would they not replace seals if they're changing the fan blade?

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geswek said:
Why would they not replace seals if they're changing the fan blade?

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They're only machining out the front side cover and installing a new compressor wheel, no reason to dig into the turbo sooner if they're new. The Tial (Livernois) turbos are a fairly easy upgrade except for the machining process.
 
I watch some video's last night on rebuilding turbo's. The sealing system used inside turbo particularly on the spindle, it would appear if the wheel was made to in correct spec's and there was to much side to side play. It could result in a oil leak, this is just my unedujumacated opinion in my attempts to a understand how the sealing system works on a turbo.
 
So Livernois sources the turbo upgrade with another company, so they don't warranty the work? This doesn't make any sense to me. Did they tell you all of this when you were getting them to do all of this work? Or did you source the turbo upgrade yourself and have Livernois do the work? I'm just not understanding why Livernois would do business this way...
 
From what my dyno sheets show, the turbo upgrade does not add any peak HP to the curve from those who have the stock wheels.

They may increase the HP in the whole RPM range.....??

Mike
 
Keep in mind fellas boostedsho has a 2013. I not sure for whatever reasons but LMS isn't able to get as much power out of them.
I know Steve was disappointed with his 2013 performance.
 
crash712us said:
Keep in mind fellas boostedsho has a 2013. I not sure for whatever reasons but LMS isn't able to get as much power out of them.
I know Steve was disappointed with his 2013 performance.

Hmm; AWD issue?

AFAIK, nothing changed in the engines.
 
crash712us said:
Keep in mind fellas boostedsho has a 2013. I not sure for whatever reasons but LMS isn't able to get as much power out of them.
I know Steve was disappointed with his 2013 performance.

Really that is new information to me. Ford must have changes something then.
 
crash712us said:
For one the program in the ECM is encrypted.

That doesn't surprise me; considering all the warranty claims off modified engines. ;)

They made me sign a paper when I bought my car that if I did a single modification my warranty would be voided.
 
Darkside said:
Never realized it before, but 6k to add 50hp???  Holy shiat that seems like alot of coin for that.

All those mods gave him 400hp at the wheels. Our engine is 365hp at the crank and probably 320 something at wheels.
 
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