Smoke out the exhaust

SHOdded said:
Hope they document the build process for ya, be nice to have an album of sorts.

I do too!  I doubt it will have to many details on the fuel system, as it is all new to the market....

We are still waiting for OEM parts to put it back together....  Snow is coming.....  I will be bummed if I can't get it to the track this year, let alone drive it.

I can't remember what the car drove like, it has been so long.

The transmission is the next weak link.  The cars have produced over 600 WHP on their dyno!  That is equivalent to 800 FWHP, as stock engined cars put down 260 WHP.  Andy has mentioned the are locking the cars down in the 500 WHP area to save the transmission.

Ill post more as it progresses!

Mike
 
Update:

Car is still at Livernois.  Waiting on the fuel system components......

Car is 2 years old in December.  I have had it for almost 3 months at home and 6300 miles.  I guess it is good that it is almost paid off and is allmost new in miles.

As I can remember it is Black in color????  Yes, the registration shows it is black.

Anxious to get this thing back!  Any others running into delays with high HP builds?

Mike
 
Are they taking a different route than with bpd's build?  Considering they have posted 500+ awhp already there.
 
SHOdded said:
Are they taking a different route than with bpd's build?  Considering they have posted 500+ awhp already there.

I honestly do not know.  My car has been there for almost a year after the upgraded stock turbos were junk with the leaking oil seals, and ~19 months total at the shop.

I originially thought I was to have the "innovative" car at the time Spring of 2014), but as others are having their cars in and out of the shop with more HP I just don't know......  I am concerned that I am the only one with issues of OEM parts supply for my build as other cars are completed with 500 WHP+.  It is October 14th, and my local track closes in 2 weeks, let alone snow can happen at any time, so I am losing any chance to drive it let alone race it this year!

I wish I had just purchased a more capable factory car and never went the route of builing the SHO up.

Mike

 
I feel for ya, man!  To have it and to not have it would drive me nuts!  Hope they have good news for you very,very soon.
 
Boosted, I think our engines are quite capable from the factory, you just got the bad one in the bunch which exists with every manufacturer. Hopefully you can get your car back soon and begin to actually enjoy driving it.
 
2 years at the shop!?!? Not cool by any means, makes you think on the quality of the turbos they offer. But hopefully you get it before Christmas, as a Christmas gift. Good luck.
 
cror1 said:
2 years at the shop!?!? Not cool by any means, makes you think on the quality of the turbos they offer. But hopefully you get it before Christmas, as a Christmas gift. Good luck.

well, let's actually talk about what it is and isn't.

This was the first upgraded turbo 2013 car out there, so original development of the calibration for that took a good deal of time. Once that was done unfortunately the turbos started smoking after he had received the car back. We went to get the car at no cost, and brought it back to our facility to send the turbos out (again, remembering these were the only turbos on the market back then) and inspected. They passed inspection, but I pushed for them to replace all of the components anyways. Being they had to get enitre new center sections it took a great deal of time to get done, but once they did we put them in, along with break in oil to properly seat the seals, and all was good to go. Now, just for everyone's knowledge, the turbos only had an upgraded wheel, so the part that was smoking was 100% OEM, which is an issue we see quite often.

At that time, it was decided that we were going to push the car harder, and an upgrade package was put together to get the car to handle as much power as possible, and while at it, put some parts on it that were only in the design phase at that point.

With that said, this is going to have the worlds first upgraded fuel system, and has our bore support system. All of which everyone will learn about as soon as the final results come in :)

As for what parts took a good deal of time, there were 5 OEM items necessary that took literally months to get, but on the other hand the fuel system test pieces did not show up until friday of last week, so now, if all goes well, it will be smooth sailing on the mechanical portion, and then on to the tuning :)
 
I am waiting for the moment when Boostd's face splits in half with a wide-open grin at WOT :D  So hurry it up, by all means!
 
I have limited knowledge of the upgraded fueling solutions LMS is/was working on..... but it wasn't an available option for me a the time my motor was built.

I've kept mum about it purposely, as that's something for LMS to divulge the details on, if they so choose to....

But I'll tell 'ya what... from what I was told, sounded like a very thorough, well thought out, and very well designed set up.

I may be inclined to get another (LMS) upgrade down the road.

I even offered to be the test guinea pig, but again, wasn't an available option at that time, as it was still in the early infancy of developmental stage(s) this past Spring.

Continued advancements from LMS. Cool stuff for sure!

I know I'll be a little jealous of BoostdSHO when his car is ultimately completed.

He'll be the next owner sporting that "Perma-Grin" even if has been some time that's passed.

As the old adage goes.... "All great things come to those who wait".
 
Livernois Motorsports said:
cror1 said:
2 years at the shop!?!? Not cool by any means, makes you think on the quality of the turbos they offer. But hopefully you get it before Christmas, as a Christmas gift. Good luck.

well, let's actually talk about what it is and isn't.

This was the first upgraded turbo 2013 car out there, so original development of the calibration for that took a good deal of time. Once that was done unfortunately the turbos started smoking after he had received the car back. We went to get the car at no cost, and brought it back to our facility to send the turbos out (again, remembering these were the only turbos on the market back then) and inspected. They passed inspection, but I pushed for them to replace all of the components anyways. Being they had to get enitre new center sections it took a great deal of time to get done, but once they did we put them in, along with break in oil to properly seat the seals, and all was good to go. Now, just for everyone's knowledge, the turbos only had an upgraded wheel, so the part that was smoking was 100% OEM, which is an issue we see quite often.

At that time, it was decided that we were going to push the car harder, and an upgrade package was put together to get the car to handle as much power as possible, and while at it, put some parts on it that were only in the design phase at that point.

With that said, this is going to have the worlds first upgraded fuel system, and has our bore support system. All of which everyone will learn about as soon as the final results come in :)

As for what parts took a good deal of time, there were 5 OEM items necessary that took literally months to get, but on the other hand the fuel system test pieces did not show up until friday of last week, so now, if all goes well, it will be smooth sailing on the mechanical portion, and then on to the tuning :)


Will the fuel system support straight E-85?

Thanks for the explanation!

Hope you built Boostd a hellcat killer....
 
^^^just furthered the excitement a bit. Starting to wonder if this may come with injectors too.

Surely to be a highly sought after upgrade.

Rich

 
It did NOT include injectors at the time.

It was learned on my own post engine build (& dyno) that injectors (whether an entire extra set, or even larger ones to replace the OEM's outright) was not necessary at all.

Again, i'm sure in due time. LMS will divulge details when they see fit.
 
Livernois Motorsports said:
cror1 said:
2 years at the shop!?!? Not cool by any means, makes you think on the quality of the turbos they offer. But hopefully you get it before Christmas, as a Christmas gift. Good luck.

well, let's actually talk about what it is and isn't.

This was the first upgraded turbo 2013 car out there, so original development of the calibration for that took a good deal of time. Once that was done unfortunately the turbos started smoking after he had received the car back. We went to get the car at no cost, and brought it back to our facility to send the turbos out (again, remembering these were the only turbos on the market back then) and inspected. They passed inspection, but I pushed for them to replace all of the components anyways. Being they had to get enitre new center sections it took a great deal of time to get done, but once they did we put them in, along with break in oil to properly seat the seals, and all was good to go. Now, just for everyone's knowledge, the turbos only had an upgraded wheel, so the part that was smoking was 100% OEM, which is an issue we see quite often.

At that time, it was decided that we were going to push the car harder, and an upgrade package was put together to get the car to handle as much power as possible, and while at it, put some parts on it that were only in the design phase at that point.

With that said, this is going to have the worlds first upgraded fuel system, and has our bore support system. All of which everyone will learn about as soon as the final results come in :)

As for what parts took a good deal of time, there were 5 OEM items necessary that took literally months to get, but on the other hand the fuel system test pieces did not show up until friday of last week, so now, if all goes well, it will be smooth sailing on the mechanical portion, and then on to the tuning :)

Great to hear that you are taking care of it and going well beyond and above. I am looking forward to the new upgrades for this platform?
 
bpd1151 said:
It did NOT include injectors at the time.

It was learned on my own post engine build (& dyno) that injectors (whether an entire extra set, or even larger ones to replace the OEM's outright) was not necessary at all.

Again, i'm sure in due time. LMS will divulge details when they see fit.
Thx for the extra info. Any bit to help the mind from wandering down the wrong path helps.

I did mention a fuel system ponder at track day. Got some grins and a you'll be happy as there is alot of effort going into making it right.

No extra details though.

Rich

 
Andy called me tonight on my way home.

ATP would like to install their latest turbos on my build!  Giving me a very good deal!  Thank You ATP!  Get some stickers or something that I can have on the car to promote you guys and business cards!

Andy mentioned these were WAY better than the Tial inserts.

Not sure how much HP it will make on the banzai pulls, but it will be great to have low throttle increases over the Tials.

I have been thinking of the rally cars with real AWD systems making 700+ WHP.  Who builds these, and why can't we get rally type parts for the SHO platforms??  Have we broken all the axles, and and AWD shafts yet in other people's builds?  DSS or the like making anything for us yet?

Really getting excited to see this car almost done!

Going to be my Daily Driver for work!

Mike
 
Update:  Car has a leaking injector, and need to sort this out to continue tuning.

On race gas, 510 hp, with hopefully more to come??

Mike
 
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